On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 12:32, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet < ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
> Worse, in the baseball umpiring exam I mentioned, someone said to me > “isn’t that what you’d get if you just asked a whole lot of fans about the > rules rather than asking umpires?” > > > > There’s probably something important about that. How does it know which of > the material it was trained on is valid? > Yep that’s the thing, it doesn’t actually know what is “valid”. From what I understand it just gets “pushed” in certain directions during training and not in all cases obviously. My experience with things like ChatGPT so far basically brings it down to a better Google really. Early days > > Regards, > > > > Greg > > > > Dr Greg Low > > > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile > > SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc&e=> > | > About Greg: https://about.me/greg.low > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk&e=> > > > > *From:* mike smith via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> > > *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 12:19 PM > *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> > *Cc:* mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: AI > > > > "old system views" > > > > That makes me wonder if it has any way of differentiating between > something it found from a decade ago to more recent data. > > > > Mike > > On Fri, 23 Feb 2024, 11:43 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, < > ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > > > For me, it depends what you want it to do. It certainly can appear to help > someone who’s new to an area. > > > > For most code writing, I’ve been pretty underwhelmed. As an example, if I > ask it to write SQL, I get a very poor outcome. It will use old deprecated > views instead of the current system views (that have been around for a > decade), and often does things in a convoluted way. > > > > What I have been impressed with, is how it can help you understand > acronyms, etc. Quite amazing. I’ve also been pretty impressed with using it > go generate some test data, including in multiple languages. And the test > data is fairly believable. If I ask it for family names, and I also ask for > Chinese, it does pick common Chinese family names in the test output. > That’s pretty impressive. > > > > It can do a reasonable job of things like “here’s some DAX code, can you > simplify it?” It often can. Or “here’s a regular expression, can you > explain what it does?” and it does that just fine. I’ve seen people happily > using it to explain code that they don’t understand, or to (sort of) > document some code. > > > > But it also is so confident on things, yet so wrong. I gave it a 25 > question baseball umpire test the other day. It was 100% confident > sounding, but 40% correct. The weird thing is that some of the questions > that it got right, are things that new human umpires often get wrong. Yet > for simpler questions, it would say that something legal is illegal. > > > > It’s certainly interesting, but it’s very much a work in progress. It will > be part of our futures. > > > > Regards, > > > > Greg > > > > Dr Greg Low > > > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile > > SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc&e=> > | > About Greg: https://about.me/greg.low > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk&e=> > > > > *From:* Tom Gao via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> > *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 11:58 AM > *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> > *Cc:* Tom Gao <t...@tomgao.com> > *Subject:* AI > > > > Hi guys, I haven't posted in a few years and haven't been on the tools for > a long time now as well. I'm on a panel on a digital conference coming up > in march. We had a pre meeting today and the topic of AI came up. Two of > the panelist said cited CBA and Westpac using AI and were able to save 30% > on development effort. > > > > Personally I just finished an AI course my view is quite the opposite. My > personal opinion of the generative AI space and AI in general having spent > time with the academics is that the benefits are significantly over > inflated. > > > > I want to get some other opinions if you are seeing any significant > benefit and that I may be just out of touch or not aware. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -- > ozdotnet mailing list > To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/ > > -- > ozdotnet mailing list > To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
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