I’m not a subscriber to read the entire article but 30% is a load of BS at this stage
On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 at 15:18, Tom Gao via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: > Here's the article. > > > https://www.afr.com/technology/commbank-claims-ai-is-already-making-it-work-30pc-better-20240206-p5f2uu > > So what does everyone think about the claim that 30% efficiency? ie to me > as head of IT instead of hiring 10 developers to build applications now > only 7 is required. To me that just doesn't seem realistic. > > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:04 PM Tom Rutter via ozdotnet < > ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 12:32, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet < >> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: >> >>> Worse, in the baseball umpiring exam I mentioned, someone said to me >>> “isn’t that what you’d get if you just asked a whole lot of fans about the >>> rules rather than asking umpires?” >>> >>> >>> >>> There’s probably something important about that. How does it know which >>> of the material it was trained on is valid? >>> >> >> Yep that’s the thing, it doesn’t actually know what is “valid”. From what >> I understand it just gets “pushed” in certain directions during training >> and not in all cases obviously. >> >> My experience with things like ChatGPT so far basically brings it down to >> a better Google really. Early days >> >> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr Greg Low >>> >>> >>> >>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile >>> >>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc&e=> >>> | >>> About Greg: https://about.me/greg.low >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk&e=> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* mike smith via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 12:19 PM >>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >>> *Cc:* mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: AI >>> >>> >>> >>> "old system views" >>> >>> >>> >>> That makes me wonder if it has any way of differentiating between >>> something it found from a decade ago to more recent data. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On Fri, 23 Feb 2024, 11:43 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, < >>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tom, >>> >>> >>> >>> For me, it depends what you want it to do. It certainly can appear to >>> help someone who’s new to an area. >>> >>> >>> >>> For most code writing, I’ve been pretty underwhelmed. As an example, if >>> I ask it to write SQL, I get a very poor outcome. It will use old >>> deprecated views instead of the current system views (that have been around >>> for a decade), and often does things in a convoluted way. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I have been impressed with, is how it can help you understand >>> acronyms, etc. Quite amazing. I’ve also been pretty impressed with using it >>> go generate some test data, including in multiple languages. And the test >>> data is fairly believable. If I ask it for family names, and I also ask for >>> Chinese, it does pick common Chinese family names in the test output. >>> That’s pretty impressive. >>> >>> >>> >>> It can do a reasonable job of things like “here’s some DAX code, can you >>> simplify it?” It often can. Or “here’s a regular expression, can you >>> explain what it does?” and it does that just fine. I’ve seen people happily >>> using it to explain code that they don’t understand, or to (sort of) >>> document some code. >>> >>> >>> >>> But it also is so confident on things, yet so wrong. I gave it a 25 >>> question baseball umpire test the other day. It was 100% confident >>> sounding, but 40% correct. The weird thing is that some of the questions >>> that it got right, are things that new human umpires often get wrong. Yet >>> for simpler questions, it would say that something legal is illegal. >>> >>> >>> >>> It’s certainly interesting, but it’s very much a work in progress. It >>> will be part of our futures. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> >>> Dr Greg Low >>> >>> >>> >>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile >>> >>> SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__sqldownunder.com_&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=o3oFliHztOF8D9Nbqaa7KQdqC-zkQNXWl4IqnEG58Wc&e=> >>> | >>> About Greg: https://about.me/greg.low >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__about.me_greg.low&d=DwMFAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=2rgtwrXggQFZiZbisdwDooYFalucb-vLhjG0McaanBZKn0UVuognuHqfHnjp2AVc&m=I23jyX4AKIv9q2x7A3CQAer9PGCjq8R6DwW7BE1IAhZ1JbigKMrMPRCjs6AqW7h3&s=NsAibgiqfCxsyc8m2DBKogKQcs3OqE3mkyCjmpoYxTk&e=> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Tom Gao via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >>> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 11:58 AM >>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >>> *Cc:* Tom Gao <t...@tomgao.com> >>> *Subject:* AI >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi guys, I haven't posted in a few years and haven't been on the tools >>> for a long time now as well. I'm on a panel on a digital conference coming >>> up in march. We had a pre meeting today and the topic of AI came up. Two of >>> the panelist said cited CBA and Westpac using AI and were able to save 30% >>> on development effort. >>> >>> >>> >>> Personally I just finished an AI course my view is quite the opposite. >>> My personal opinion of the generative AI space and AI in general having >>> spent time with the academics is that the benefits are significantly over >>> inflated. >>> >>> >>> >>> I want to get some other opinions if you are seeing any significant >>> benefit and that I may be just out of touch or not aware. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> -- >>> ozdotnet mailing list >>> To manage your subscription, access archives: >>> https://codify.mailman3.com/ >>> >>> -- >>> ozdotnet mailing list >>> To manage your subscription, access archives: >>> https://codify.mailman3.com/ >> >> -- >> ozdotnet mailing list >> To manage your subscription, access archives: >> https://codify.mailman3.com/ > > -- > ozdotnet mailing list > To manage your subscription, access archives: https://codify.mailman3.com/
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