Hi Jo, thanks for your affirming words. I appreciate your feedback. It is vitally important to work with medical students and to challenge their accepted, medically conditioned ways of thinking. It is great you are doing that. You just never know what effect you will have on the future by your great work and kindness in teaching them and showing them what woman friendly means. Investment in these beginning medicos is critical. Remember, the more emotional you can make it, the more their brains remember and bring it up in the future. A pity they are imprinted with how "not" to be - you could use that though to really get them to articulate the desired way and make that a stronger imprint - this is where the Socratic style of questioning is so useful, for example "How do you think that woman feels after....." and "what would be a better way of doing...." and "what do you think the best course of action in that situation would be?" and "Do you think Dr Blah Blah was being woman friendly when he ...." and "Who was in control in that situation? Do you think the woman felt empowered by the way those choices were explained to her?" etc. It seems that asking is always better than telling :-).
Yes, they do get the edges bumped off them by the old guard, that is a survival tactic to fit in to the culture... but little by little.... Those who know these things say culture change takes about 30 years... Towards a woman friendly culture, warmly, Carolyn Hastie -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@;acegraphics.com.au]On Behalf Of JoFromOz Sent: Monday, 21 October 2002 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Rape by stealth (longish) I love your post, Carolyn. You say a lot of what I feel but I don't know how to express it. The term 'stranded beetle' said it all for me... It makes me sad, but I am taking this thread as a challenge to be able to advocate better for women in situations such as these. I can only wish the 'new breed' of obstetric residents/registrars and obstetricians are more women-friendly. I have been working with some medical students recently, doing their obstetric placements. Many of them are saying that it is a great experience to see how NOT to be when/if they specialise in obstetrics. It is an advantage for the medical students to work on a day-to-day basis with midwives, but their growing minds still get poisoned with lectures and tutorials by those 'expert' obstetricians! Sincerely, Jo Babies are Born... Pizzas are Delivered. > Interesting also the stranded beetle position in > dogs indicates total surrender and lack of power - same for us human > females - surrender and acquiescence and one is far less likely to complain > or dissent in such a position. > Roll on NMAP! > > In solidarity, > > Carolyn Hastie -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
