I'm sorry to hear of your personal experience, Judy, it's so common and so
ignored. I'm sure that the work you've done has been both informed, and
blessed by this sadness in your own life. Sometimes great things come from
tragedy!
Love to you,
J

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Judy Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support


> I am sure that debriefing helps even if it does not cure. I
> remember one particular woman at my previous place of work who
> rang me many times and needed to talk about her EM CS (possible
> not necessary) and I felt sad for her when I left there as we
> had not finished debriefing. I think it helped a bit but she was
> still a bit of a mess.
> For my self, I would loved to have had a sympathetic ear, it
> took me nearly 25 years to come to terms with the 2 CS that I
> had. Fortunately I have been able to channel into midwifery,
> trying hard not to let women get the raw deal that I had.
> Cheers
> Judy
>
>
> --- Nicole Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > HI Mary,
> > I remember reading about that research and being surprised. I
> > have discussed
> > it with the psych nurse employed where I work, who spends time
> > nearly every
> > day with women who have experienced traumatic births (or
> > perceived them to
> > be even when we might not have called them such). She feels it
> > does help.
> > Even one visit can help women who want to understand what
> > happened to them
> > and why. Some require much more, and thankfully our maternity
> > support
> > workers are great with these women. However, it is a tragedy
> > that we need to
> > have these workers. They do also work with antenatal and
> > postnatal
> > depression.
> > I can't remember the specifics, but I don't recall being
> > particularly
> > impressed with the methodology of the study that you mention.
> > And if women
> > want to talk about their experience they should be able to,
> > whether it is
> > formal debriefing or whatever. I suppose you don't want to
> > treat all women
> > the same, ie what is appropriate debriefing for one woman,
> > would not
> > necessarily work for another. If you did try to treat them the
> > same it would
> > not be surprising if it did not work.
> > Nicole Carver.
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mary
> > Murphy
> >   Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:59 AM
> >   To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> >   Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Post cs support
> >
> >
> >   I believe there is some research out there that looked at
> > de-briefing
> > women after birth, particularly traumatic births.  As I
> > remember it, the
> > research did not show that this debriefing had particularly
> > helpful
> > outcomes.  Of course it is all in the Who, the When and the
> > How.  Does
> > anyone remember it?  Mary Murphy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > --
> >
> >   Andrea wrote:
> >
> >   Any suggestions. Should all women have a follow up
> > appointment with the
> > midwife who was at her birth, is this appropriate as they may
> > have been part
> > of the problem, should all women have a follow up appointment
> > but the woman
> > be allowed to choose who she wants the appointment with, at
> > what stage would
> > this be appropriate, 2 weeks, 8 weeks 3 months? How does this
> > fit with the
> > M&CH nurses who are now involved in the woman's on going care?
> > How does her
> > doctor, be it her own GP, obst or the one who attended (or
> > not) her birth
> > be involved in this?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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