Nicely said, Joe! I agree that the forum fits well with the detailed build process; seems to encourage it. I think; less so in email groups. I've joined some of the foreign language forums that are certainly part of the paper modeling community just to be inspired by what they are doing. The French sites have some nice figure models that rival the Japanese and those communities are pretty strong and use a forum. I wouldn't try to characterize the military modelers; they're ubiquitous and seem to have adapted to every community type; same for the Space/SciFi folks. Now some of those sites seem to me to be pretty exclusive, or rather, more focused on those models; strong community there, to be sure. The toy models can be interesting and complex i.e. Flying Pig and to this day I still appreciate the BrickBoy model and Wall Man. Those are very creative models! That's the desktop community.
The "community" is based upon the activity of paper modeling. I applaud and appreciate those who promote it in whatever medium or format they desire. For my needs, email is sufficient. As for "reply envy" - that's human nature! It's nice to be appreciated and noticed. But for me, when I have a model I enjoyed building, it's enough to simply share it. Praise is nice but I know where the mistakes are and how I tried to hide them and unless I point them out and talk about them, nobody else will because people are polite. And I know that Mike always has a kind word to say to new and old members alike. (And if I poke him enough, I can elicit a humorous remark from WebDude who is always lurking about. :) ) YMMV - Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 7:22 AM Subject: [Papermodels II 37649] Re: Another distraction build ... Rick, I am more appreciative than ever for the Papermodelers forum, especially since the Zealot owners dictatorship reared it's head. As you say, (my observation also) is that most modelers belong to more than one list, forum, group - whatever. What really draws me to the forums is that you can find and learn from detailed builds of complicated subject. We do not see that kind of work and posting on the list anymore. Tongue in cheek I would say the email list has become somewhat exclusive because the focus is on more toy-like items. Rarely do we see complicated builds. There's a member who builds beautiful models, but I notice he only posts when he has a completed model. He offers good history and advice on techniques, and it's a pleasure to see his posts. Wouldn't it be nice if he posted as the model was built? What keeps him from doing that? Is it because those posts get little to no reply, as opposed to a post of a new Hako character that can get a flood of replys? Exclusivity? My model post get less frequent and less wordy because "why bother"? I throw some pictures out and move on. I still enjoy the people and the conversations. Thank God for Mandy who's builds enlighten me. JoeG -----Original Message----- From: Rick Steffers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2009 8:47 pm Subject: [Papermodels II 37551] Re: Another distraction build ... Cat, I am really sorry you feel that way Cardmodels.net and Papermodelers.com have manage to grow, and prosper and reach out to all of the corners of the world. We have survived many server changes, and explosive blow ups, and management changes, and each time we have come back from that, and gotten better. Also, If you care to point out the divisiveness you seem to see, I would welcome an opportunity to change it What is exclusive about my forum? Like this mailing list I have seasoned people as well as new people to the hobby, and we welcome all people. How does my forum or any forum do irreparable damage or harm? I would like to see examples if you can provide it. Many of the members of my forum are members of various other forums and mailing lists. Rick admin papermodelers.com On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, cat <[email protected]> wrote: Mike Hungerford wrote: > Gary Pilsworth's "Land of the Giants" 'Spindrift.' > > Available in the downloads section at Papermodelers.com But only if you sign up for yet another annoying forum. I hate those things. They destroy any community by fractionating it. Their "exclusivity" excludes the general public and does irreparable harm to any interest group. Mail lists like this create community, forums destroy it. cat -- "Rock is Dead, Long Live Paper and Scissors" Want the same traffic, attitude, and information? Check out www.papermodelers.com Love Racing? Love Paper Models? Check Out http://rpmodels.proboards46.com/ http://paperdakar.blogspot.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/rickstef http://internationalpapermodelconvention.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paying hundreds for more mobile than you need? Take a Peek at the answer. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Papermodels II" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Papermodels?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
