Comrades
   It is perhaps unfair to expect a high level of debate and discussion on the 
merits of Pan Africanism as a revolutionary tool of positive action against 
imperialism, when some of the participants in the forum have not read widely 
enough or given deep thought on the subject in a way that they'd sometimes 
express their ignorance rather than inform and educate. There is always the 
danger that if we follow this route we would be dumbing down and not really 
enriching the discussion.  I also take the particular use of swear words as 
uncouth and a form of intimidation of other participants, which reveals 
political bankruptcy rather than critical analysis from the bearer  We often 
laughed at the satirical wisecracks that explained cowardice of the native 
forces that submitted to colonial invasion when they reported to their leader 
that the marauding Boers took all their cattle and important belongings, but 
that they in return were so good with insults from the mountain top that they 
felt good inside.  Their comical leader was also impressed with the newly found 
swear words, at the expense of dispossession.   
   I therefore urge all of us to do the right things - observe decorum and 
common courtesies, openness and fair criticism.  And to read widely.  The 
newspaper columnists who went into trouble in recent times for the use of 
toilet  images, sexism, homophobia, ethnicity and  self aggrandisement, called 
it upon themselves to lose such important forums to engage in public debate on 
pertinent national issues.  Using the race card to get your way in discussions 
is the refuge of scoundrels, pure and simple.  The disciplinary code of the PAC 
says we must vanquish opponents with facts, not the knuckle duster.  
   Pan Africanism as we know it is the antidote of slave mentality, colonialism 
with its divided and rule tactics, capitalist exploitation and imperialism.  
These dark forces found willing and compliant people in Africa, such as the 
swear brigade, who sold out by taking their own to the slave ship for pieces of 
silver in their trade with the Arabs and Europeans.  Out of ignorance, African 
people even killed resistance leaders such as uShaka kaSenzangakhona, Amilcar 
Cabral, Patrice Lumumba and Thomas Sankara, as Mzu Cabanga states.  Compare 
this to the Red indians in America who chose suicide rather than to be a slave, 
or betray at will.  Philosophers of Pan Africanism arose from the learning 
institutions and from the crucible of struggle.  >From Frederick Douglass to 
the man in the street who was at the coal face of white supremacy, Pan 
Africanism went on to become a salient feature in the bosoms of people of 
colour worldwide, and all national resistance movements were inspired by this 
approach.  Of course there were betrayals each time the African people 
heightened their mass action and were about to reach the rendezvous  of 
victory.   History has many such examples and post independence neo-colonial 
Africa has legions of them.  
   It is naive to start discussions with a conclusion that undermines the 
contributions of Mangaliso Sobukwe and his colleagues in the Africanist school 
of thought.  The basic political theory expressed by AP Mda, John Pokela, Zeph 
Mothopeng, Peter Raboroko, Sobukwe and others such as Steve Biko, is a 
phenomenal revolutionary aspect of our political legacy.  The world wide Pan 
Africanist movement looks up to the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania for their 
revolutionary political home.  We will rise with the masses at every stage of 
their social development, as genuine vanguard of the African Revolution, 
showing the light, expressing our faith in their ability to fight and to win, 
until final victory.  We are anti-nobody but pro Africa.  Oppression is not an 
abstraction - the settler colonialist, the landlord, the exploiting capitalist, 
the ruthless baas-boy, and the colonial chief, are all representatives of the 
cause of the misery of the people.  Remove the association with the instrument 
of oppression, and they will be accepted by the African people.  As Prof said, 
it is not impossible in a free and liberated Africa to have a white man as 
president.  He will be doing so as an African.  Political theory is not an 
emotional outburst.  It is carefully thought out.  Our vision and mission is 
the civilisation of humanity.
   The PAC leadership believed we could tame Christianity and use it as a 
liberatory force.  The same applies to the notion of communism.  As Africanists 
with anti-imperialist credo, we believed in democracy as understood in the 
West.  We denounce the patchwork of colonial parentage and borders on the 
African continent, tomorrow we will have a single monolithic government.  Our 
planned economy - taking from the West and from the East - will benefit the 
people of Africa.  If for instance you do not share the outlook of the PAC and 
fail/refuse to add critical value, it is impossible to carry out the task and 
historical mission.  We will label you a traitor.  Letlapa Mphahlele said in a 
radio interview two weeks ago that 'the PAC was pathetic.'  He had said this 
before in many other forums.  How can you lead a cause you do not believe in?  
Using the army as an analogy, the general believes in the capability of his 
forces.  He understands his role, to inspire and to unite them into a fighting 
machine, to recover and turn-around, and march to victory. He shows the light, 
like Sobukwe has done under very difficult circumstances, and the cadres will 
follow.  Not mangamanga.
   The Pan Africanist Congress of Azania is the African people.  If the PAC is 
weak, the African people are weak.  If the structures and organisational 
culture of the Party degenerates, the African people suffer.  If the shepherd 
is sloppy and clumsy and he falls asleep on duty, the flock goes astray.  Our 
orientation of working for victory and success, should be an internal locus of 
control.  We are our own liberators.
   Izwe lethu iAfrika
 
 
 
 
 



Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:08:46 +0200
Subject: Re: [PAYCO]
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

I thank you then comrade Mdu.
However I see that other Africans are not participating in debates which I do 
not want to jump to conlusions as to why as we know resources could also be the 
problem to that.
I urge all Africans who can to participate on such debates. PAC has to be 
ressurected by all of us.
We do not want to find ourselves in the same situation that our leaders were in 
before us, the situation in Burkina Faso when Sankara was assasinated.
We need to be all Sankaras and that for me is the strength that past Pan 
Africanists did not have.


On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected]> wrote:




I hope you will consider my writing to you as  a critique rather than a 
parental rebuke. I say so, because you sound doleful when you say  “I also 
think it is rather harsh to say my thoughts exhibit the highest form of racial 
extremism but that is also your opinion” you see, writers, get reviews who 
criticize them about their respective works. If a censure, does not insult (at 
times, some comrades go to the extent of insulting one another) consider it 
critical. The fact that your thoughts  and writings evoke some reactions from 
some of us, indicate that you are a thought provoker. It is not a harsh 
treatment when we criticize your thoughts. A while ago, I met, Dr. K Kondlo, 
who wrote about PAC history in his thesis, I reported to him that some comrades 
within the PAC are critical about the veracity of some accounts in his book. He 
said “ Mdu, that’s what I wanted”. Remember, politics is unlike natural science 
with fixed laws, but, it is a dynamic phenomenon. At university, we dealt with 
a host of scholarship dealing with philosophy. Think about Machiavelli, 
Grotius, John Lock and others. If these folks  were contemporaries, do you 
think, they would agree with each other? I have not responded on all points you 
raised. But God willingly, I will do so when I get time. 
 
Izwe Lethu
 
 
 
ilto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mzu Cabanga
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PAYCO]



 
Dear Comrade Mdu:

Firstly I thank you for raising such a thought provoking issue which is 
critical to all Pan Africanist.
I also think it is rather harsh to say my thoughts exhibit the highest form of 
racial extremism but that is also your opinion.
I will also consider your suggestion of revisiting the writings of Sobukwe and 
Peter Rabaroko however reality forces us to change how we see things currently. 
Firstly Pan Africanism is way to old to only mention tata Sobukwe and Rabaroko 
as the pioneers of it with all due respect.
We have also pioneers like Padmore, Du Bois and Garvey to name the few. They 
all had different views but were on the same path.

We have found ourselves in the diaspora within Africa because of these races 
which are curremtly in Africa and are entrenching their values, cultures and 
religions to Africans.
We must also understand that not only land which is wealth was stolen from us 
but our identity was stolen and destroyed too.
You find our brothers in the North now are Muslims and Arabs because of the 
pressure from the Arabs who were the first to invade our Africa forcefully too 
and were disturbed by the whites who were dominant to them and they also 
brought their Christianity as well.

Our identity is all but ashes as we speak because of these races.

I repeat Pan Africanism is not determined by tata Sobukwe, Rabaroko, Padmore 
etal but it is every black wo/men in Africa finds themselves in the situation 
they are in because of all these alien races who invaded Africa. If we fail to 
see it that way then we will find ourselves falling on the same trap over and 
over again. Also Pan Africanism should not only focus on economics and politics 
only but also on values and cultures of Africa. What was undone that needs to 
be restored and not just land and wealth plus political power only but our 
being as well. Living as an Afrikcan and being religiously and culturally 
independant from thesse alien races in Africa.

In the case of these alien races in Africa, I fail to understand how we can 
accomodate them in Africa knowing how they came to Africa and what pain they 
caused. Deaths of innocent Africans who tried to defend themselves from this 
evil attack.

Those people are still wounded even though they are dead, Mama Afrika is crying 
for her children who were massacred without a reson.
For us to be so forgiving and be willing to share Africa with them is a huge 
mistake which will haunt us for generations.
Our generation is the last generation that can undo the mistakes that were done 
by our forefathers, as human beings they were not immune to mistakes.

Disagreeing on certain issues shows that we are human beings and is good for 
diversity of ideas but to differ because we are trapped in the cage that our 
Pioneers created is my problem. Their ideas were not cut on stone. We should 
also chllenge them because if we are still trapped in their thinking then we 
are denying ourselves a room for growth politically. Times have changed and the 
reality forces us to revisit what they thought before and update their thoughts.

Izwelethu!!!!!!!!




On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected]> 
wrote:


 
Dear comrade Mzu:
 
I have noticed on myriad occasions that your thoughts exhibit the highest form 
of racial extremism.  The armed struggle with its concomitants slogans such as 
“ one settler, one bullet” is to be apportioned a blame for a continued 
radicalism that exist today in the PAC. Some of you think that our radicalism, 
which we espoused in late 60’s and 90’s, was to run perpetually. I challenge 
you to digest the writings of our pioneer fathers such as Robert Sobukwe, Peter 
Raboroko and others. You will come to a realization that kicking out white 
people or any national groups, as we have seen in some countries that followed 
ethnic cleansing, amount to the opposite of white PAC said. I can’t cite 
Sobukwe, I think you have a literature to refer to. However, I am perplexed 
with your convictions of Herrenvolkism. admittedly, there are challenges that 
face the dispossessed African majority, but I have some reservation about how 
you believe we should attend them.
 
 
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Mduduzi Sibeko
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