Hi all,

I have incorporated changes suggested by Les and Acee in the working copy
maintained at -

TXT -
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dhruvdhody/ietf/master/draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-12.txt
DIFF -
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11&url2=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/dhruvdhody/ietf/master/draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-12.txt

Also, see inline...


On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 5:57 PM Lars Eggert via Datatracker <
nore...@ietf.org> wrote:

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> # GEN AD review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-11
>
> CC @larseggert
>
> ## Discuss
>
> ### Section 4, paragraph 3
> ```
>      Section 4 of [RFC5088] states that no new sub-TLVs will be added to
>      the PCED TLV, and no new PCE information will be carried in the
>      Router Information LSA.  This document updates [RFC5088] by allowing
>      the two sub-TLVs defined in this document to be carried in the PCED
>      TLV advertised in the Router Information LSA.
>
>      Section 4 of [RFC5089] states that no new sub-TLVs will be added to
>      the PCED TLV, and no new PCE information will be carried in the
>      Router CAPABLITY TLV.  This document updates [RFC5089] by allowing
>      the two sub-TLVs defined in this document to be carried in the PCED
>      TLV advertised in the Router CAPABILITY TLV.
>
>      This introduction of additional sub-TLVs should be viewed as an
>      exception to the [RFC5088][RFC5089] policy, justified by the
>      requirement to discover the PCEP security support prior to
>      establishing a PCEP session.  The restrictions defined in
>      [RFC5089][RFC5089] should still be considered to be in place.
> ```
> (This is mostly for discussion on the telechat, and I expect to clear
> during the call.)
>
> Why were 5088/89 so strict on not allowing new sub-TLVs? This seems
> quite unusual for IETF specs. I'm not arguing that this document
> can't update those earlier RFCs to allow these new sub-TLVs, but it
> seems odd to do so and in the same sentence say "the restrictions
> should still be considered in place."
>
> ### Section 8.2, paragraph 1
> ```
>      The PCED sub-TLVs were defined in [RFC5088] and [RFC5089], but they
>      did not create a registry for it.  This document requests IANA to
>      create a new registry called "PCED sub-TLV type indicators" under the
>      "Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) Parameters" grouping.  The
>      registration policy for this registry is "IETF Review" [RFC8126].
>      Values in this registry come from the range 0-65535.
> ```
> Should the registration policy not be stricter (e.g., Standards
> Action?) given that 5088/89 didn't even allow any new values?
>
>
Dhruv: Updated to Standards Action.



>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ## Comments
>
> ### Inclusive language
>
> Found terminology that should be reviewed for inclusivity; see
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/part2/#inclusive_language for background and
> more
> guidance:
>
>  * Term `master`; alternatives might be `active`, `central`, `initiator`,
>    `leader`, `main`, `orchestrator`, `parent`, `primary`, `server`
>

Dhruv: The term appears in reference to an existing term defined in another
RFC.

      KeyID: The one octet Key ID as per [RFC5925] to uniquely identify
      the Master Key Tuple (MKT).

Not sure how I can avoid using the term.



>  * Term `man`; alternatives might be `individual`, `people`, `person`
>
>
Dhruv: Updated (as also suggested by Roman)



> ## Nits
>
> All comments below are about very minor potential issues that you may
> choose to
> address in some way - or ignore - as you see fit. Some were flagged by
> automated tools (via https://github.com/larseggert/ietf-reviewtool), so
> there
> will likely be some false positives. There is no need to let me know what
> you
> did with these suggestions.
>
> ### URLs
>
> These URLs in the document can probably be converted to HTTPS:
>
>  * http://www.unicode.org/unicode/reports/tr36/
>
>
Dhruv: Updated.



> ### Grammar/style
>
> #### "Abstract", paragraph 1
> ```
>  for OSPF and IS-IS respectively. However these specifications lack a
> method
>                                   ^^^^^^^
> ```
> A comma may be missing after the conjunctive/linking adverb "However".
> (Also elsewhere.)
>
> #### Section 1, paragraph 5
> ```
> ry" instead of the "IGP registry" where as [RFC8623] and [RFC9168] uses the
>                                   ^^^^^^^^
> ```
> Did you mean "whereas"?
>
> #### Section 3.2.2, paragraph 3
> ```
>  string to be used to identify the key chain. It MUST be encoded using
> UTF-8.
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^
> ```
> This word is normally spelled as one. (Also elsewhere.)
>

Dhruv: The "key chain" is quite common. 'Greping' in existing RFCs I found
many instances!



>
> #### Section 5, paragraph 4
> ```
>  enable a man-in-the-middle attack. Thus before advertising the PCEP
> security
>                                     ^^^^
> ```
> A comma may be missing after the conjunctive/linking adverb "Thus".
>
>
Dhruv: All other nits are incorporated.

Thanks!
Dhruv



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