Re: [PCI] Re: OT: Is Panther Faster?

[Bill's In th' House Connelly]

I'm enjoying OS X 10.2.8 on my two PowerPC 8500s ... one with a G3/500  
and the other G4/450 (both Sonnets) ... the OS X is noticeably smoother  
on the G4 but I also have a Radeon 7000 Mac Edition in the machine as  
well ... the G3 only has on board / VRAM as its video driver ... I  
needed the upgrade to OS X applications in my music work, so I gave up  
the on-board S-Video and RCA I/O ... except that I have returned to it  
by starting up in OS 9.1 from time to time ...

I believe OS 9.2.2 was taylored, even more away from legacy machines  
... Sonnet said not to use it with their cpu-s ... so I have stuck with  
9.1 as my Classic environment, and for booting into when I'm feeling  
homesick ... although I feel I have moved into X for the most part ...

Jaguar is heavy on the visuals ... nice results with th Aqua interface  
thingy ... and I looked at Panther ... but won't spring for the cost of  
the upgrade ... 10.2.8 seems to be working fine for me, and when I  
finally give up and move on to a G5 (when Apple moves the speed on up  
somewhat), I should get the Panther (or Couger, or Leopard, or  
whatever) along with it ... looks like Panther is also using some 3-D  
visuals, which may make it slower on my Mac without the special video  
card (the Radeon 7000) ...

My scan for viruses (which turned up nothing ... hooray for Macs) did  
take a long time for Norton AntiVirus ... with my large ATA drives, and  
massive amount of files, it took 20+ hours ... Symantec (at  
MacFixit.com) says it's probably a legacy Mac thing ... a native G4  
took from 2-3 hours for a similar number of files .... (in the 150 to  
200,000 range) ... so would Panther be faster on a legacy Mac ?????     
?????   ?????

so that's where I am today ... I did just see Retrospect has an upgrade  
... but it is for OS X 10.3 and up ... so I'm beginning to feel some  
"exclusion" because of software upgrades to match the OS upgrades ...  
but nothing significant ...

Bill

On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 07:28  PM, frank luff wrote:

Michael Day wrote:
on 2/3/04 3:37 PM, David Elmo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, it is an excellent question by Powermac. But, Mikie, of course  
you
concur! You can play with X on a well suitable machine. The reason  
for most
legacy Mac users is probably to see what X is like, for a bit of a  
look, a
taste, the satisfaction of actually getting it to run, sort of, and  
so on.
Some folk claim they are stable and they can actually do work on this
platform on older machines. OK. But for the rest, it's like running  
an old
car and putting in a few mod cons ...

I have resisted the temptation so far. When folk used to go to OS 7  
on Mac
SE30s I stuck to OS 6 because it ran quicker, no question. The  
majority of
people do want more modern systems without real evidence (anecdotes  
are not
really sufficient). More a subject for social psychiatry  ...

Wonder what X would be like on my 7600 (G4 360MHz, tons of  
everything else)
...?  :)

David Elmo
Hi......David, you've made several good points and I'm somewhat of a
hypocrite. I "force-feed" older Macs and Clones with OS 9.2.2 (via OS9
Helper) all the time.
I'd like to see that!!!
I have just spent three days trying to get back from the mess I got  
into
trying to upgrade to 9.2.2! With the helper whats more.
I got it to work after finding out the 9.1.2 installer wouldn't instal
thru the ATO scsi card I have installed in the beige G3 300.
I got to instal on the ATA disk.
The updater was giving so many error's I gave up, btw it was a 6 hour
download.
I got the impression 9.2.2 was more stable?
I'm back with 9.1 again and it's idiosyncratic behavour.
fluff

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