At 12:22  11/4/01 -0800, you wrote:
>At 12:51 PM 11/4/01 -0500, Linda Johnson wrote the following:
>
>>Gerry said:
>>
>><<Things to do and don't do.
>>1) Always apply patches to bad software, especially MS programs
>>2) Use an e-mail client other than MS Outlook
>>3) Don't open attachments, unless v*rus scanned first.
>>4) Don't allow auto-launch of MS programs
>>5) Don't download software hacks, cracks, pirated versions, etc., from
>>w*rez sites UNLESS you v*rus scan them before installing.>>
>>
>>I would say, if you follow all steps EXCEPT step number 2 and remember NOT
>>to use your Preview Pane, you can run Outlook just fine without getting
>>vir*ses
>
>Most of the members on this list know I usually give references with my
>statements. My opinions are usually based on fact, not just something I
>quote "off the top". The reason I mention Eudora and say stay away from
>Outlook is because MS just doesn't take security seriously. They keep
>patching their software instead of designing it properly in the first
place.
>
>If you take a quick peek at CERT (http://www.cert.org/) and do a check on
>"Outlook Express" in the search box, you will see some 493 hits. Most of
>these are advisories specifying vulnerabilities. Eudora on the other hand
>will only turn up about 20 hits.
>
>To learn more above Outlook Express (lack of) Security see:
>OL2000: Information About the Outlook E-mail Security Update
>http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q262/6/31.ASP
>
>
>--
>Gerry Boyd

I have been following this thread and still I am amazed at the lack of
personal research that most list members do.  It is as if "they" feel
inferior when it comes to computers, but at the same time have no
initiative to learn on their own.

Linda Johnson is correct with her 2� because she is dependent on M$
products for a living.  Gerry Boyd is completely correct because he is the
"real deal" when it comes to computers and their use.

It all boils down to what  the h*ll a person is using a computer for and
what they need to accomplish that activity.  Personal computing habits are
not developed without experimentation and personal research.  Everyone has
their own opinion about the subject.

Outlook and Outlook Express are extremely vulnerable to Visual Basic
Scripts that execute v*ral codes.  Eudora in conjunction with a good
personal firewall product and a competiive Antiv*rus Scanner product will
protect you always but no matter what products you use, if you STILL insist
on being reckless about email attachments, even Superman will not be able
to save you.

Here is a call out to all courageous Admins. Persuade your firms to adopt a
private scheduling and calendar product and switch to Eudora or Pegasus
Mail and v*ruses will all but disappear from the corporate forefront.  If
no one ever tries then corporate America will forever be "sheep".

Now on the Personal side use "free products" for your email clients and
Antiv*rus scanning.  And most importantly MAKE SURE THAT ALL YOUR
ATTACHMENTS ARE SCANNED FOR V*RUSES AND THAT IT IS A COMMUNICATION THAT YOU
ARE EXPECTING AND RECOGNIZE THE SENDER.

Now that was MY 2�, for after all opinions are like buses, one comes along
every 10 minutes going in different directions.

Barry ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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