At 01:09 AM 11/5/01 -0500, Linda Johnson wrote the following:

><<If you take a quick peek at CERT (http://www.cert.org/) and do a check on
>"Outlook Express" >>
>
>Outlook and Outlook Express are not the same program, Gerry......

Yes I know that but search engines don't. CERT uses the term "outlook" for 
their "Infosec Outlook" notes.

>if you knew
>what Outlook can do that Eudora, Pegasus, TheBat, Poco, Netscape, AND
>Outlook Express cannot do, you would not make blanket statements about
>people dropping Outlook......it has MANY features in it which make it the
>program of choice for most of us who use our email for business......if you
>just want email, use any of these, but if you want something with the
>advanced business features, you have to use either Outlook or Lotus
>Notes.....and, if you've ever tried using Notes as an Internet email client,
>I'm sure you are aware of its shortcomings

Yes, Novell Groupwise and Lotus Notes are great products in-house or on a 
LAN and terrible when then send e-mail. The gateways must try to make sense 
of the proprietary coding and then attempt to send e-mail across the 
Internet that recipients can read.

I was trying to show that Outlook is an abject failure when it comes to 
security. Most of all the v*rus and security breaches are from/to/for 
Outlook and NOT Outlook Express (believe it or not).

If you want to use Outlook in a business environment, fine, use it in-house 
and something else to send/receive e-mail from the Internet. Many large 
organizations do exactly this. One internal LAN/WAN secure system using the 
product of choice (Groupwise, Notes, Outlook, etc) and some other product 
of choice via a proxy server to the Internet.

--
Gerry Boyd
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