Hmm, and I heard is was good!  Guess I'll know soon if it
works for me or not.  I haven't tried it yet, but there is a
way to 'test' the backup to make sure it's good and it will
indeed restore the HD.

Yeah, I've heard all sorts of bad things about adaptec's
ECDC, but it's all I've ever used and never had any problems
with it as long as I used the updates.  I hated Nero, NTI, CD
Clone, etc.  Guess I'm just not used to their interface.
Also, you can't even use a cdR disk with Nero's packet
writing, only a cdRW disk.  90% of the time I use DCD, I
hardly ever use ECDC and DCD has no 'interface', I like the
way you can simply drag files to the cdrw drive's shortcut
icon on the desktop, or right click and 'send to cdrw drive'.
I haven't had any problems with ECDC either since I started
using a burn proof drive.  Guess it just depends on what one
is used to and what you learned on.  :-)

What is the company or URL (and $) of that software that
works in DOS?  BTW, all I did was deleted that line from
msdos.sys and that worked ok.  Hook no longer there.  I'd
still like to know how that happened!
Thanks Ralph,
-Clint

God Bless Us All
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://OrpheusComputing.com
http://ComputerHardware-ConsumerElectronics.com

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Clint,

I have read reviews and talked to other people, and Take Two
is NOT
rated that great of a program.

In fact, what I find VERY interesting these days is CD
burners and the
software they include. Used to be that ALL the CD burner
manufacturers
included Adaptec's EZ CD Creator and Direct CD programs with
the burner
to give you something to create CDs.

However, I have noticed in the last year or so that hardly
any company
is still supplying Adaptec/Roxio's software anymore with the
new
burners. Most of the time, I am seeing Nero, NTI, and several
other
programs, as becoming the standard to include now.

The time points back to when Adaptec started including Take
Two in the
package, and it seems that there has been problems ever
since.

Unlike other system backup programs which are aimed at doing
that, such
as Veritas, NTI, and others, which are aimed especially doing
backups
(Veritas finally decided to go the other way, and now has
Stomp, Inc
their distributor of not only their personal backup software
but also
making CD copies, as well as music and data CDs.), Take Two
has never
had a great reputation for system backup software. So a LOT
seems to be
involved with this issue.

So I think it boils down to uninstalling Take Two off your
system, if
you have it installed, and install a good backup package,
such as
Veritas/Stomp, NTI, or a similar program. By the way, NTI now
a deluxe
backup that lets you backup systems in 95, 98, ME, 2K, and
XP.

And found the other day a commerical company, which I have
the URL of at
work, and I am writing this at home, which produces software
to make CDs
not only in Windows but in Dos as well. This is the first
time that I
can recall that I have seen a commercial package to produce
CDs of all
kinds in a Dos environment, including system backups. It does
not seem
to do compression of the data, but I could be wrong on that.
And I
think, if I am not mistaken, to properly handling the long
file name
issue of windows file names - meaing it can save not just the
file with
the 8.3 file name but the windows long file name as well, so
if
restored, windows can work properly.

Ralph


[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Clint Hamilton wrote:
>
> All I did was right click the file and uncheck 'read only'
> then removed that problem line, and it booted up OK this
time
> with no hook.  Thanks Keith.  (Still flabbergasted on what
> could cause this! :-)  Since the only other area where
there
> is an msdos.sys file is in the adaptec folder (even though
> that file is BLANK), I guess that software *could* be the
> cause of it, but it's never done that before on any other
> format/installation!  Does anyone think that Adaptec's
"Take
> Two" software (backup software, does a 'mirror image' of
the
> HD that can be restored from DOS via boot disk) could have
> caused this?  It is installed as part of ECDC 5 Platinum,
and
> it was partially run as a 'test' on this PC, but NOT FULLY
> run.  Still, the same was done on my other HD and it still
> did not have this 'hook'.  Hmmmmm.
> -Clint
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