If I may add or clarify to what Ben and Peter said: Most of
your Socket 370 (aka FCPGA & PGA) VIA chipsets can support
133mhz bus CPU's, and most of the boards "top out" at about
1.1ghz.  (There's really not a whole lot of faster CPU's than
this that was made in the S370 format).

S370 PIII's can be 100mhz bus, or 133mhz bus (the EB suffix
usually means 133mhz bus, ex. PIII 800EB).  S370 PIII's are
256k L2 FULL SPEED cache, but you might be able to find some
'server' Tualatin PIII CPU's hanging around that had 512k
cache, however they are rare and expensive (1.4ghz PIII
Tualatin 512k for example).  Slot one PIII's is what had 512k
L2 cache but it was half speed.  At the end cycle of slot one
PIII's I believe there was some 256k full speed units.

There are two basic type of S370 Celerons; 128k cache and 256k
cache.  Most of the 256k units are going to be Tualatins, and
most if not all of them are going to be in the FCPGA2 format
with an IHS.  This is something Intel did to more evenly spread
out the actual contact area between the heatsink and ACTUAL
chip.  IHS is "Integrated Heat Spreader".  Like Tualatin's,
some boards won't support the FCPGA2 format, but most will even
if they don't mention support for them.

Many, if not most mobo's won't technically support Tualatin
core CPU's.  They require a lower voltage than what a typical
mobo can support.  So, you need to check with Gigabyte's site
to find this out (and they usually have bad links or no CPU
support tables except for brand new boards!).  There are
Tualatin adapters out there that could enable you to use a
Tualatin type CPU on your mobo if yours does not currently
support it.  There are Tualatin Celerons and Tualatin PIII's.

YES, it can be very confusing and frustrating to find out
exactly which CPU's a S370 board supports.  Not just because of
old/outdated mobo manufacturer's info, and even INCORRECT info,
but also due to the fact that Intel likes "confusing" people on
their CPU's by making a dozen different ones in the same speed.
You must get the Intel product order code of a CPU you are
interested in*, then do a search for it in order to find out
EXACTLY what it is, because most vendors don't give you ALL of
the CPU's info, and in most cases it's also incorrect!

*The CPU order number is going to look something SIMILAR to
BX80530C1133256.  In that example, BX means it's retail boxed.
80530C is just the Intel prefix code.  1133 means 1.13(3)ghz
speed, and 256 is 256k cache.  You can also find the CPU's
specs sometimes under it's "code", which is a 5 digit code that
looks similar to SL5VP (which is a 1ghz S370 Celeron).  Looking
that # up, you find this:
http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL5VP&ProcFam=49&PkgType=5885&SysBusSpd=ALL&CorSpd=ALL
-Clint

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Kaulback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



In the hour of 03:57 PM 9/17/2003 +1000, Jim Cladingboel spoke
this:
>Hi all,
>I am thinking of putting a faster Celeron (Socket 370) into my
Gigabyte
>motherboard with VIA chipset.   Can anyone advise the
>fastest Celeron that would fit, and which would not require
changes to the
>motherboard.   I am looking for faster handling of
>graphics in photo editing etc.
>
>Jim, in sunny Brisbane, Oz.

Jim, you can probably upgrade to the 1.4 ghz Tualatin Celeron
or P3. The
difference being that the Celeron has a 100 mhz bus and 256k
cache while
the P3 has a 133 mhz bus and a 512k cache. I did this recently
for a
relative, the cpu was less than a 100.00 (CDN) and now they
have a very
fast computer.

If your system supports 133 mhz then go with a P3 if not then
go with the
Celeron.

Peter Kaulback
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