They confuse everyone with it. Why they can't stick with a platform for more than a few months is beyond me. What most think (as do I) is they purposely do this to make people have to buy different motherboards with their chipsets on them for "newer" CPU's. In the case of the P4; first it was socket 423 which looked like a s370 CPU with a "dome" on the top. Then it was socket 478 which is postage stamped size. Of course, you need proprietary mobo's for each one and those that bought the s423 P4's and boards had to buy a s478 board if they wanted a faster CPU! Next it's the Prescott P4 and no one knows what socket format that's going to be, and last I checked, Intel is not saying! Some new P4 mobo makers are claiming "Prescott support" on their s478 boards, but they can't say that for sure. I would guess Intel is going to once again make it a totally new socket requiring once again another mobo. -Clint
God Bless Us All Clint Hamilton, Owner Want to exchange links with us? http://OrpheusComputing.com ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks Clint, I wasn't even going to try to explain the FCPGA - PGA differences. Intel really confused me with all that P3 stuff. I think we are about to see confusion in P4's too with the next processor. Ben Moore ----- Original Message ----- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > If I may add or clarify to what Ben and Peter said: Most of > your Socket 370 (aka FCPGA & PGA) VIA chipsets can support > 133mhz bus CPU's, and most of the boards "top out" at about > 1.1ghz. (There's really not a whole lot of faster CPU's than > this that was made in the S370 format). > > S370 PIII's can be 100mhz bus, or 133mhz bus (the EB suffix > usually means 133mhz bus, ex. PIII 800EB). S370 PIII's are > 256k L2 FULL SPEED cache, but you might be able to find some > 'server' Tualatin PIII CPU's hanging around that had 512k > cache, however they are rare and expensive (1.4ghz PIII > Tualatin 512k for example). Slot one PIII's is what had 512k > L2 cache but it was half speed. At the end cycle of slot one > PIII's I believe there was some 256k full speed units. > > There are two basic type of S370 Celerons; 128k cache and 256k > cache. Most of the 256k units are going to be Tualatins, and > most if not all of them are going to be in the FCPGA2 format > with an IHS. This is something Intel did to more evenly spread > out the actual contact area between the heatsink and ACTUAL > chip. IHS is "Integrated Heat Spreader". Like Tualatin's, > some boards won't support the FCPGA2 format, but most will even > if they don't mention support for them. > > Many, if not most mobo's won't technically support Tualatin > core CPU's. They require a lower voltage than what a typical > mobo can support. So, you need to check with Gigabyte's site > to find this out (and they usually have bad links or no CPU > support tables except for brand new boards!). There are > Tualatin adapters out there that could enable you to use a > Tualatin type CPU on your mobo if yours does not currently > support it. There are Tualatin Celerons and Tualatin PIII's. > > YES, it can be very confusing and frustrating to find out > exactly which CPU's a S370 board supports. Not just because of > old/outdated mobo manufacturer's info, and even INCORRECT info, > but also due to the fact that Intel likes "confusing" people on > their CPU's by making a dozen different ones in the same speed. > You must get the Intel product order code of a CPU you are > interested in*, then do a search for it in order to find out > EXACTLY what it is, because most vendors don't give you ALL of > the CPU's info, and in most cases it's also incorrect! > > *The CPU order number is going to look something SIMILAR to > BX80530C1133256. In that example, BX means it's retail boxed. > 80530C is just the Intel prefix code. 1133 means 1.13(3)ghz > speed, and 256 is 256k cache. You can also find the CPU's > specs sometimes under it's "code", which is a 5 digit code that > looks similar to SL5VP (which is a 1ghz S370 Celeron). Looking > that # up, you find this: > http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL5VP&ProcFam=49&PkgType=5885&SysBusSpd=ALL&CorSpd=ALL > -Clint ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
