Thanks Clint, I wasn't even going to try to explain the FCPGA - PGA differences. Intel really confused me with all that P3 stuff. I think we are about to see confusion in P4's too with the next processor.
Ben Moore ----- Original Message ----- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:02 AM Subject: Re: PCWorks: Upgrading my Celeron 600 > If I may add or clarify to what Ben and Peter said: Most of > your Socket 370 (aka FCPGA & PGA) VIA chipsets can support > 133mhz bus CPU's, and most of the boards "top out" at about > 1.1ghz. (There's really not a whole lot of faster CPU's than > this that was made in the S370 format). > > S370 PIII's can be 100mhz bus, or 133mhz bus (the EB suffix > usually means 133mhz bus, ex. PIII 800EB). S370 PIII's are > 256k L2 FULL SPEED cache, but you might be able to find some > 'server' Tualatin PIII CPU's hanging around that had 512k > cache, however they are rare and expensive (1.4ghz PIII > Tualatin 512k for example). Slot one PIII's is what had 512k > L2 cache but it was half speed. At the end cycle of slot one > PIII's I believe there was some 256k full speed units. > > There are two basic type of S370 Celerons; 128k cache and 256k > cache. Most of the 256k units are going to be Tualatins, and > most if not all of them are going to be in the FCPGA2 format > with an IHS. This is something Intel did to more evenly spread > out the actual contact area between the heatsink and ACTUAL > chip. IHS is "Integrated Heat Spreader". Like Tualatin's, > some boards won't support the FCPGA2 format, but most will even > if they don't mention support for them. > > Many, if not most mobo's won't technically support Tualatin > core CPU's. They require a lower voltage than what a typical > mobo can support. So, you need to check with Gigabyte's site > to find this out (and they usually have bad links or no CPU > support tables except for brand new boards!). There are > Tualatin adapters out there that could enable you to use a > Tualatin type CPU on your mobo if yours does not currently > support it. There are Tualatin Celerons and Tualatin PIII's. > > YES, it can be very confusing and frustrating to find out > exactly which CPU's a S370 board supports. Not just because of > old/outdated mobo manufacturer's info, and even INCORRECT info, > but also due to the fact that Intel likes "confusing" people on > their CPU's by making a dozen different ones in the same speed. > You must get the Intel product order code of a CPU you are > interested in*, then do a search for it in order to find out > EXACTLY what it is, because most vendors don't give you ALL of > the CPU's info, and in most cases it's also incorrect! > > *The CPU order number is going to look something SIMILAR to > BX80530C1133256. In that example, BX means it's retail boxed. > 80530C is just the Intel prefix code. 1133 means 1.13(3)ghz > speed, and 256 is 256k cache. You can also find the CPU's > specs sometimes under it's "code", which is a 5 digit code that > looks similar to SL5VP (which is a 1ghz S370 Celeron). Looking > that # up, you find this: > http://processorfinder.intel.com/scripts/details.asp?sSpec=SL5VP&ProcFam=49&PkgType=5885&SysBusSpd=ALL&CorSpd=ALL > -Clint ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines & make sure you've followed proper posting procedures, http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com =====================================================
