I dont agree, yes the little LCDS are more expensive than the little CRTS were, but I already stated these are no good for HDTV anyway ( even so, they are generally better than the little crts were though ). I really dont know who would buy them because would have to sit right in front of them like a computer screen to see everything and that's not how most people watch television.
Who benefits most from HDTV? EVERYONE! Thats why it was developed, same reaason TV was develpod, the mfgrs make money, the artists make money, the viewers enjoy the shows more, the whole thing improves mankind and arts, its NOT a "scam" just because you dont want it or dont think its cheap enough. I think its more than cheap enough to be worth it already and has been for some time now. This doesnt mean it wont get even cheaper, I believe it will, but why waste good years of your life watching a crappy ntsc tv when these are available now and for very affordable prices to the average person. I could give you even more statistics on TV prices that would blow your mind. TVS used to be way way more expensive than they are today for much smaller and inferior screens, even black and white and everybody still had one so the theory that today they are just too expensive just doenst fly with me at all. jco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:55 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: It's snowing in hell --OT The prices of large screen LCD or DLP HDTV's are lower than the equivalent large screen CRT's. However medium sized (25-32") and small sizes (below 25") they're significantly (4-5x) more expensive. And those medium TV's are the backbone of the TV market (although for HD, it's more like 32"-42" for medium sized). Large screen TV's were always a fringe market. Prices are massively higher for all but the top end (where they have come down massively, I'll admit). I'd hardly call myself cheap in not wanting to spend thousands of dollars on a Television. Half a thousand is a reasonable price for a mid-sized TV, two thousand isn't (note, canuck dollars being used here, don't know or care about US pricing) And look at who benefits most from HD. The manufacturers (they get to sell TV's, HD players, Tuners, HD PVR's and Digital cable boxes for a significantly larger price and profit), the content providers who get to resell all that content on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray (which they're charging more for, despite the cost being the same to them), the FCC who gets to resell all that spectrum for billions and the cable companies who get to sell expensive Digital Cable packages necessary to take advantage of HD. The consumer gets a significant increase in the cost of a new TV of average size or gets forced to buy a HD tuner with analog RF, composite or 480i component output so they can watch broadcast TV after analog broadcasts are banned in the next few years. The TV stations are also getting screwed since they need to replace all their gear with more expensive kit. Sounds like a scam to me, or at least price inflation. You know, this kind of resembles a previous debate, except it's my perfectly good kit that's having functionality (the onboard tuner) removed for no really good reason. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > YOU are simply incredible, just because > you are incredibly cheap to buy tvs > that are not only cheaper than ever but > FAR better than ever and dont want > to does not make them a "scam" (see > your final remarks at he bottom of this post) , it just > makes you a very cheap fool. You could > say that if the prices were higher > for the same quality, but they > are LOWER than ever for BETTER quality than ever. > dumb dumb dumb. Not dumb for not buying, > dumb for saying its all a scam. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Adam Maas > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:45 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: It's snowing in hell --OT > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> you are comparing apples with oranges. >> A movie theater is not the same as >> a home theater, you have very very >> limited choice of "programs" to see >> at a movie theater compared to a home >> theater. And I stand by what I said, >> the very best theater in my ares >> is no longer as good as the best or >> even my home theater on picture quality. > > Well, I've got access to much better quality theaters then. > >> Secondly, I aleaday explained to you >> in my last post that you cant and wont >> get the full benefit of HD on small >> sets, neither close up or at a distance. >> Those look similar to analog at that >> size because most of them are not >> full 1080 resolution, most are 720/ >> and small CRTS regardless of scanning >> format wont resolve the full 1080 resolution. > > And incase you missed it, that supports my point (Since the only > reasonably priced HDTV's are tiny wee little things) > >> Regarding image quality in theaters, >> they have to make big compromises >> to project the large image, this >> is why the illumination isnt perfect >> like HDTV, they have to use projection >> lenses, unlike direct view tv, and they >> have to use COPY PRINTS, not original >> negatives, like good hdtv film transfers >> are made from. > > So? It still looks better bigger. See your previous point. > >> If you dont think HDTV is worth it for >> you, thats one thing, but this thread >> started with you saying its hype, >> cash grab, no better than dvd, worse >> than DVD, etc. and that I have a problem >> with because I dont believe any of that >> is true. >> >> JCO >> > > And I still say it's a cash grab and mostly a scam. The costs do not > justify the benefits, analog broadcasts are being phased out despite the > > fact that most TV's can only accept them. good reasonably sized CRT's > are pretty much out of production in order to force the market into > larger, overly expensive HDTV's that they don't need or want (it's only > very recently that the small HD sets even became available) and the HD > content is mostly a poorly upsampled rehash of the DVD or analog > versions. > > -Adam > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
