Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill.  In fact guns have killed more 
people than nuclear weapons... so far.

In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea.  They have both 
led to untold injury, death, and suffering.  Their purpose is largely, to 
kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life.

Am I anti-gun?  No.  Just making a point.  Sure this is simplistic, but the 
truth often is.

Tom C.








>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
>Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500
>
>Sorry, I must disagree.  An armed victim is more likely to defend
>herself than a disarmed victim.  To paraphrase a member of the English
>House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban in GB.
>'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong.  To restrict
>their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense.
>Governments may have the power to do that, but should not have the
>right.'  Apparently the British Government no longer believes in the
>Citizens right of self defense.  Do you?
>
>
>William Robb wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great Britain 
>banned
> >> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more difficult), 
>violent
> >> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, (violent crime
> >> rates in England are now higher than in the US).  I doubt that 
>smuggling
> >> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a symptom of
> >> something else.
> >>
> >
> > Straw man argument, Peter.
> > Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more 
>seriously
> > hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be used at 
>range
> > where the victim has less chance of self defence.
> >
> > William Robb
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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