There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are more the 
province of governments.  A single person with a gun is unlikely to kill 
a lot of people before they're stopped, (by my definition of a lot 
anyway).  A government with an army and a lot of guns, or a single 
nuclear weapon can kill a whole lot of people.  For that reason alone I 
believe logic dictates tis better for individuals to be armed and 
governments to be disarmed.

Tom C wrote:
> Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill.  In fact guns have killed more 
> people than nuclear weapons... so far.
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> In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea.  They have both 
> led to untold injury, death, and suffering.  Their purpose is largely, to 
> kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life.
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> Am I anti-gun?  No.  Just making a point.  Sure this is simplistic, but the 
> truth often is.
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> Tom C.
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>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
>> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500
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>> Sorry, I must disagree.  An armed victim is more likely to defend
>> herself than a disarmed victim.  To paraphrase a member of the English
>> House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban in GB.
>> 'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong.  To restrict
>> their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense.
>> Governments may have the power to do that, but should not have the
>> right.'  Apparently the British Government no longer believes in the
>> Citizens right of self defense.  Do you?
>>
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>> William Robb wrote:
>>     
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence
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>>>> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great Britain 
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>>>> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more difficult), 
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>> violent
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>>>> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, (violent crime
>>>> rates in England are now higher than in the US).  I doubt that 
>>>>         
>> smuggling
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>>>> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a symptom of
>>>> something else.
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>>> Straw man argument, Peter.
>>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more 
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>>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be used at 
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>> range
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>>> where the victim has less chance of self defence.
>>>
>>> William Robb
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