Well my point (even though I'm not anti-gun) is that it's better for no one to be armed than anybody to be armed. That's what logic dictates to me.
Rather than fighting violence with violence, find a way to stop the violence. That's also logical. Tom C. >From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:34:22 -0500 > >There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are more the >province of governments. A single person with a gun is unlikely to kill >a lot of people before they're stopped, (by my definition of a lot >anyway). A government with an army and a lot of guns, or a single >nuclear weapon can kill a whole lot of people. For that reason alone I >believe logic dictates tis better for individuals to be armed and >governments to be disarmed. > >Tom C wrote: > > Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill. In fact guns have killed more > > people than nuclear weapons... so far. > > > > In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea. They have >both > > led to untold injury, death, and suffering. Their purpose is largely, >to > > kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life. > > > > Am I anti-gun? No. Just making a point. Sure this is simplistic, but >the > > truth often is. > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500 > >> > >> Sorry, I must disagree. An armed victim is more likely to defend > >> herself than a disarmed victim. To paraphrase a member of the English > >> House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban in GB. > >> 'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong. To restrict > >> their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense. > >> Governments may have the power to do that, but should not have the > >> right.' Apparently the British Government no longer believes in the > >> Citizens right of self defense. Do you? > >> > >> > >> William Robb wrote: > >> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great Britain > >>>> > >> banned > >> > >>>> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more difficult), > >>>> > >> violent > >> > >>>> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, (violent >crime > >>>> rates in England are now higher than in the US). I doubt that > >>>> > >> smuggling > >> > >>>> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a symptom of > >>>> something else. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Straw man argument, Peter. > >>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more > >>> > >> seriously > >> > >>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be used at > >>> > >> range > >> > >>> where the victim has less chance of self defence. > >>> > >>> William Robb > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> -- > >> > >> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > >> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > > > > > > > > >-- >-- > >The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >[email protected] >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
