DagT, I don't know. Maybe it's a fictional comment attributed to a prize winning author who was dragged off to the gulags. Or maybe it's his personal supposition after having been there and had it done to him. Regards, Bob S.
On 1/10/07, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great idea! What would stop them from throwing in a hand grenade > instead, or some gas? Sure, the camps would have been emptier. > > DagT > > Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 21.48 skrev Bob Sullivan: > > > I've heard that Boris's Russian countryman, Alexander Solzenitzen, > > thought the gulags would have been a lot emptier in their day if the > > secret police were uncertain which of their middle of the night raids > > would have been met with a loaded gun. > > Regards, Bob S. > > > > On 1/10/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well my point (even though I'm not anti-gun) is that it's better > >> for no one > >> to be armed than anybody to be armed. That's what logic dictates > >> to me. > >> > >> Rather than fighting violence with violence, find a way to stop the > >> violence. That's also logical. > >> > >> Tom C. > >> > >> > >>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:34:22 -0500 > >>> > >>> There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are more the > >>> province of governments. A single person with a gun is unlikely > >>> to kill > >>> a lot of people before they're stopped, (by my definition of a lot > >>> anyway). A government with an army and a lot of guns, or a single > >>> nuclear weapon can kill a whole lot of people. For that reason > >>> alone I > >>> believe logic dictates tis better for individuals to be armed and > >>> governments to be disarmed. > >>> > >>> Tom C wrote: > >>>> Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill. In fact guns have > >>>> killed more > >>>> people than nuclear weapons... so far. > >>>> > >>>> In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea. They > >>>> have > >>> both > >>>> led to untold injury, death, and suffering. Their purpose is > >>>> largely, > >>> to > >>>> kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life. > >>>> > >>>> Am I anti-gun? No. Just making a point. Sure this is > >>>> simplistic, but > >>> the > >>>> truth often is. > >>>> > >>>> Tom C. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > >>>>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >>>>> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500 > >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry, I must disagree. An armed victim is more likely to defend > >>>>> herself than a disarmed victim. To paraphrase a member of the > >>>>> English > >>>>> House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban in GB. > >>>>> 'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong. To > >>>>> restrict > >>>>> their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense. > >>>>> Governments may have the power to do that, but should not have the > >>>>> right.' Apparently the British Government no longer believes > >>>>> in the > >>>>> Citizens right of self defense. Do you? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> William Robb wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great > >>>>>>> Britain > >>>>>>> > >>>>> banned > >>>>> > >>>>>>> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more difficult), > >>>>>>> > >>>>> violent > >>>>> > >>>>>>> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, (violent > >>> crime > >>>>>>> rates in England are now higher than in the US). I doubt that > >>>>>>> > >>>>> smuggling > >>>>> > >>>>>>> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a > >>>>>>> symptom of > >>>>>>> something else. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> Straw man argument, Peter. > >>>>>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more > >>>>>> > >>>>> seriously > >>>>> > >>>>>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be > >>>>>> used at > >>>>>> > >>>>> range > >>>>> > >>>>>> where the victim has less chance of self defence. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> William Robb > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >>>>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > >>>>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>> PDML@pdml.net > >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> -- > >>> > >>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > >>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > DagT > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
