Not really, since a drunk being arrested makes a lot of noise as well. But he still gets arrested, it's not usually worthwhile to have a gun battle to avoid a night in the drunk tank. The neighbors will look at it the same way. Blowing up the apartment next door is messy and bureaucrats hate messy.
DagT wrote: > Then it would have been enough to make some noise to avoid the > arrest, wouldn´t it? > > Anyway, gas is silent and the Russians used it recently in the > theater hostage affair. Remember? > > DagT > > Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 23.25 skrev P. J. Alling: > > >> Nothing really, no I take that back. The secret police prefer to work >> in silence, grenades are so publicly noisy, and hard to ignore. >> >> DagT wrote: >> >>> Great idea! What would stop them from throwing in a hand grenade >>> instead, or some gas? Sure, the camps would have been emptier. >>> >>> DagT >>> >>> Den 10. jan. 2007 kl. 21.48 skrev Bob Sullivan: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I've heard that Boris's Russian countryman, Alexander Solzenitzen, >>>> thought the gulags would have been a lot emptier in their day if the >>>> secret police were uncertain which of their middle of the night >>>> raids >>>> would have been met with a loaded gun. >>>> Regards, Bob S. >>>> >>>> On 1/10/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Well my point (even though I'm not anti-gun) is that it's better >>>>> for no one >>>>> to be armed than anybody to be armed. That's what logic dictates >>>>> to me. >>>>> >>>>> Rather than fighting violence with violence, find a way to stop the >>>>> violence. That's also logical. >>>>> >>>>> Tom C. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:34:22 -0500 >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a matter of proportion however nuclear weapons are >>>>>> more the >>>>>> province of governments. A single person with a gun is unlikely >>>>>> to kill >>>>>> a lot of people before they're stopped, (by my definition of a lot >>>>>> anyway). A government with an army and a lot of guns, or a single >>>>>> nuclear weapon can kill a whole lot of people. For that reason >>>>>> alone I >>>>>> believe logic dictates tis better for individuals to be armed and >>>>>> governments to be disarmed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom C wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guns kill just like nuclear weapons kill. In fact guns have >>>>>>> killed more >>>>>>> people than nuclear weapons... so far. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In retrospect, *probably* both inventions were a bad idea. They >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> both >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> led to untold injury, death, and suffering. Their purpose is >>>>>>> largely, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> kill, unlike other inventions which may endanger life. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am I anti-gun? No. Just making a point. Sure this is >>>>>>> simplistic, but >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> truth often is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom C. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:12 -0500 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, I must disagree. An armed victim is more likely to >>>>>>>> defend >>>>>>>> herself than a disarmed victim. To paraphrase a member of the >>>>>>>> English >>>>>>>> House of Lords in the losing battle against the handgun ban >>>>>>>> in GB. >>>>>>>> 'Firearms are used to defend the weak against the strong. To >>>>>>>> restrict >>>>>>>> their use by citizens is to deny them the right to self defense. >>>>>>>> Governments may have the power to do that, but should not >>>>>>>> have the >>>>>>>> right.' Apparently the British Government no longer believes >>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>> Citizens right of self defense. Do you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> William Robb wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "P. J. Alling" Subject: Re: PESO - American Fence >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hand guns don't cause crime, if that were true once Great >>>>>>>>>> Britain >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> banned >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> all hand guns, (and made shotgun ownership much more >>>>>>>>>> difficult), >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> violent >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> crime would have been eliminated, in fact it increased, >>>>>>>>>> (violent >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> crime >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> rates in England are now higher than in the US). I doubt that >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> smuggling >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> firearms is the cause of violent crime in Canada, it's a >>>>>>>>>> symptom of >>>>>>>>>> something else. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Straw man argument, Peter. >>>>>>>>> Gun crimes are more likely to end up with the victim being more >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> seriously >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hurt or dead than other types of weapons crimes, and can be >>>>>>>>> used at >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> range >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> where the victim has less chance of self defence. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> William Robb >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. >>>>>>>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. >>>>>> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> >>>> >>> DagT >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> -- >> >> The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. >> -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > DagT > > > > > -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
