My conclusion is that its not very good in absolute terms and even in a medium size print like 8x10 or 11x14 much improvement could be seen in the print at higher resolution capture.
For RESOLUTION reference only (not technical or artistic merits, it has little actally, but I already had it scanned & on hand) , Here's an example of how single person's face CAN be resolved, even in a fairly large group shot - overall shot : www.jchriso.com/temp/group1.jpg a single face in the group : www.jchriso.com/temp/head1.jpg My overall conclusion is that a really well done group shot should look like a collection of single portraits to really be fully appreciated...Thats how that old Chicago Bears team shot I mentioned earlier impressed me as looking.... jco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion Hello Jens, Sorry this is more like 40 people shot on the *istD, with DA 16-45 lens ISO 400, 1/90 sec @ f/11 Here is the full shot to give you some perspective: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3214.htm Here is a crop of one person at 100% (no resizing, just cropped from full size original) http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3214a.htm I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, January 21, 2007, 2:45:17 PM, you wrote: JB> I must admit I haven't done much work to the digital files. I did JB> sharpen them, though, but that didin't help much due the the low JB> resolution. These crops were somthing like 100x100 pixel. That's not JB> a lot, is it? Up rez'ing them wouldn't help either, I'm afriad. JB> More exposure would perhaps have helped a too, but still not enough, I JB> believe. JB> Of cource it's not quite fair comparing af 16-24mm sensor image to a JB> 58x58mm slide. I would certainly not have used 35mm film for a group JB> shot like this either. I will, however, try to make group shots with JB> the K10D, just to see how much difference 66,7% more pixels will JB> actually make. I will, however, certainly bring some Velvia, a 6x6 JB> camera with a Xenotar lens too. Just in case :-) JB> Regards JB> Jens Bladt JB> Nytarkort / Greeting Card: JB> http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html JB> http://www.jensbladt.dk JB> +45 56 63 77 11 JB> +45 23 43 85 77 JB> Skype: jensbladt248 JB> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- JB> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af JB> Godfrey DiGiorgi JB> Sendt: 21. januar 2007 23:13 JB> Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List JB> Emne: Re: Film vs. Digital - not a religion JB> You've stated you are producing a group shot for the web, not for JB> printing. You put a bunch of unexposed, crappily rendered JPEG clips JB> up as comparison to your scanned and sharpened 6x7 clips, at double JB> the size they'll appear compared to the illustration here: >>> This one wasn done with a Pentacon Six: >>> http://www.jensbladt.dk/Nykoege/images/Byraad-gruppe-20x30-web.jpg JB> to say that it won't be good enough. That's just ridiculous, Jens. JB> Learn digital exposure and rendering first. Then complain that it JB> won't be adequate quality if it isn't for the purpose at hand. JB> If I had the time, I would set up a test shot and let you be the JB> judge. I have no photographs of 30 person groups to work with, JB> unfortunately ... They're not something I've had occasion to produce JB> in the past 30 years. JB> G JB> -- JB> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List JB> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JB> -- JB> No virus found in this incoming message. JB> Checked by AVG Free Edition. JB> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: JB> 01/20/2007 22:31 JB> -- JB> No virus found in this outgoing message. JB> Checked by AVG Free Edition. JB> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.3/642 - Release Date: JB> 01/20/2007 22:31 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

