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From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> There's fiction and nonfiction in writing.   Roughly, many consider
> painting and photography the visual analogs.  The problem is that
> nonfiction is rarely completely true,

Quite true here; in fact, there are 2 distinct creative non-fiction camps: 
a)creative non-fiction that is devoted to the strict adherence to the facts, 
which when presented reveals a truth(s) & b) creative non-fiction with 
slightly less devotion to facts, but still driven to reveal the essence of 
an experience or truth of an experience.  Rosemary Mahoney wrote a brilliant 
piece of creative non-fiction called "Whoredom in Kimmage:  Irish Women 
Coming of Age" & at the reading I attended, she admited that not *every 
single detail* in the book was factually accurate, but most were (the 
important ones were) & the book did accurately capture the spirit or essence 
or truth of her trip to Ireland & her experiences there.  I tend to side 
with approach B :-).


>paintings can be realistic

I went to highschool with a guy who used to take photos with his film 
instamatic then faithfully paint the scene on really large canvasses--his 
paintings were amazing--very realistic to say the least.  I haven't thought 
about him in years--but this comment made me think of him.

>and photos can be manipulated.  We're just better at it now.

I read a book called Special Effects in Photography, which came out in the 
late 70s or early 80s.  The lengths film shooters went to for special 
effects were amazing.  I don't know if we're better at it now, but I would 
agree we're faster at it.  :-)



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