On Nov 25, 2009, at 12:53 , paul stenquist wrote:

On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:58 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2009-11-25 11:34 , John Sessoms wrote:
Most purchasers won't have control over whether other people smoke
around them, even in California. Not if they ever want to actually use
their portable computer as a portable computer.

really? that doesn't ring true to me -- i have lots of control, with or without my computer, and my computer is extremely portable -- i carry it to and from work daily, take it on short, long and even overseas trips, use it in cafes and restaurants as well as all manner of meeting rooms

maybe smokers (not sure if you are one, John) don't have a good sense of how free of smoke most of the world is; after growing up permeated by parental cigarette smoke, i've since found it easy to avoid it, even before the laws have helped; last time i made a major exception was ten years ago when my mother was dying of lung cancer, and disconnecting from the oxygen a few times a day to smoke a cigarette

i know well the gunk that smoke deposits, on electronics, walls, appliances, artwork ... it clearly takes heavy consisent smoking for it to build up, so an occasional waff in an outdoor cafe (which is pretty infrequent these days) won't make a difference to anything except my composure



I agree. I take my computer everywhere. It's my interview notebook. I've yet to encounter a smoker. Smoking isn't allowed anywhere except outdoors in most cities, and there are now restrictions on outdoor smoking as well.

I've also experienced only good tech support and warranty service from Apple. That's why I doubt the veracity of these tales. Yes, they came from three parts of the country. But they could still be from one misguided soul.

I used to smoke. From 1978 until 1984 when I quit, I was daily ensconced in a small room with my Apple ][+, //e, and ||c, and an ashtray. I smoked about a pack and a half a day. Did all my own work on the machines. Though they would get woolly inside from time to time because they all had fans that suck air in for cooling, they never got gunky, because I kept the window open at least a couple of inches, even in the winter.

I had a client, an artist, who chain smoked in his small studio with his Macintosh SE. Over the two years that I had to work on his machine, I had it opened up for memory upgrades twice. Once when it was 6 months old, again when it was 2 years old. The first time I opened it, it had some dust in it and I blew it out. A little slime was on the IC surfaces, but not bad.

The second time, the case had started to turn orange on the outside (originally grey) and the inside was horribly choked with dust and woolies matted down in a septic goo of tar. It still worked, but smelled offal (sic). I knew if I tried to clean it I would destroy it, as I couldn't help but push some of that crap down where it may short out adjacent pins. The only way I could see to clean it was to have it immersed in a bath of MEK or some other heavy degreaser/solvent and scrub it, then bake it to dry and replace. I was not equipped to do this, so I carefully changed out the memory, closed it up, and returned it after I took a bath.

I doubt any of you have been in an apartment or workspace where a worker chain smoked, but the entire area will be covered with a coating like this. And the air will be thick with smoke almost all the time without proper ventilation.

Yuck is right.

Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

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