I don't believe most people think companies owe them a job, but in a morally and ethically responsible society the system should work in a way that benefits the citizens of given land. What we have here is a dispossession of citizens in order to maximize corporate/shareholder wealth.
I think back to the early 80's when I entered IT and lot's of the heavy duty manufacturing jobs were cut and steel collapsed (I was not a part of that). Many of those workers were told to retrain for high-tech jobs and they did... but where is the benefit if those jobs are now given away? You keep referring to the market as if it's a mindless entity that dictates reality which must be adapted to. To some extent we must all adapt. I'm saying the market is created and is artifically manipulated to be what it is, and it's those with the political and economic power (same), that continue to alter it for their enrichment, and not the common good. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Sandra Hermann <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Yeah his faulty arguement is kind of annoying to all of us Americans who are >> out of work because our jobs were shipped out of the country. >> It wouldn't be so bad, if I had gone to see where my job went and knew it >> was bettering the people, but when I went and saw where my job was shipped >> to (before it was shipped out of the country, I went to train their >> employees) I noticed that the people were not being helped by the jobs. >> They spent money bribing the Governments of both countries that they >> couldn't pay the workers very much! >> JG > > So exactlywhat's faulty about my argument (Note I never said that my > position was always the case, just often). > > I know people get screwed by offshoring. But I'm frankly a little sick > of people going on and on like companies owe them a job. Tom's rant up > there was simply wrong in most particulars (especially how H1b's get > payed, the folks doing the undercutting are mostly immigrants, not > H1b's due to the real-world restrictions on employing H1b's, and on > the lack of properly trained technical people in the US, which is very > real, particularly in engineering) and his response disn't answer a > single one of my objections to his original rant, let alone disprove > any of them. > > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
