So now as an individual worker and citizen, who just wants to live a
peaceful life, make a decent wage, support my family, etc., am I or
are all the rest of the workers to blame for the situation? WE ARE
HIGHLY SKILLED and EXPERIENCED, not the cause of the problem.
Catch-22, when the youngest and brightest see eroding wages and job
losses due to off-shoring, etc., where is the incentive to train for a
career that may not be there once they enter the market, or may not
pay enough?

You're talking theory, I'm talking what I see on the street and in
company after company, project after project.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Tom C <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>
> People will wake the fuck up and start learning useful skills like
> ENgineering rather than majoring in Poly Sci and other interesting but
> unemployable bafflegab?
>
> You're conflating two issues here.
>
> 1. Immigrants always work cheaper than natives. This (to a lesser
> extent) often is true of 1st generation natives vs. those who are
> multi-generation natives. The foreigners you're complaining about
> stealing jobs locally are almost overwhelmingly likely to be either
> just as American as you are, or Landed Immigrants on their way to
> becoming citizens.
>
> 2. The only low-end jobs which are retained anywhere with a high cost
> of living are service jobs. The only service jobs which pay well are
> the trades.  If you don't want a low-end job, get some training which
> is in demand. Science and Engineering degrees or tradeskills. The
> continuing devaluation of the status of both in the US is your real
> problem. People will flock to high-status jobs and degrees, but most
> of those in the US have either bruising workloads (Law, Stock Markets)
> or have very few high-paying/high-status options. As long as people in
> the US prefer B.A's to B.Eng's you'll see the economy move to service
> jobs as companies move the good work to where the skillsets are easily
> available.
>
> -Adam
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