So now as an individual worker and citizen, who just wants to live a peaceful life, make a decent wage, support my family, etc., am I or are all the rest of the workers to blame for the situation? WE ARE HIGHLY SKILLED and EXPERIENCED, not the cause of the problem. Catch-22, when the youngest and brightest see eroding wages and job losses due to off-shoring, etc., where is the incentive to train for a career that may not be there once they enter the market, or may not pay enough?
You're talking theory, I'm talking what I see on the street and in company after company, project after project. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Adam Maas <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Tom C <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > People will wake the fuck up and start learning useful skills like > ENgineering rather than majoring in Poly Sci and other interesting but > unemployable bafflegab? > > You're conflating two issues here. > > 1. Immigrants always work cheaper than natives. This (to a lesser > extent) often is true of 1st generation natives vs. those who are > multi-generation natives. The foreigners you're complaining about > stealing jobs locally are almost overwhelmingly likely to be either > just as American as you are, or Landed Immigrants on their way to > becoming citizens. > > 2. The only low-end jobs which are retained anywhere with a high cost > of living are service jobs. The only service jobs which pay well are > the trades. If you don't want a low-end job, get some training which > is in demand. Science and Engineering degrees or tradeskills. The > continuing devaluation of the status of both in the US is your real > problem. People will flock to high-status jobs and degrees, but most > of those in the US have either bruising workloads (Law, Stock Markets) > or have very few high-paying/high-status options. As long as people in > the US prefer B.A's to B.Eng's you'll see the economy move to service > jobs as companies move the good work to where the skillsets are easily > available. > > -Adam > -- > M. Adam Maas > http://www.mawz.ca > Explorations of the City Around Us. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

