I don't think Pentax is flailing around trying to figure out what people want to buy. I think they know. They just couldn't get it done in time with the constraints they're working under.

First people want to buy full frame K-3, some will settle for a full frame K-03.

If they can't have that a K-5n (notice not the II) with the Sony 24 mp sensor, would have caused grumbling but I bet 90% of the PDML would have one within the next 6 months. I expect 99% of the Pentax forums members would have had one within a year complaining bitterly all the while.

I think Pentax would also be able to sell a fare number of K-02 cameras assuming it was a K-01 with a built in EVF.

There are a few problems however, for the K-3 and K-03 there would be only 7 current lenses that are guaranteed to to cover the whole frame. Those designated DA would probably automatically crop to APS-C.

The 24mp sensor won't have the stellar noise control of the 16mp sensor in current use. It will probably be better than Sony's implementation, by a little, which is already good, but not as good as the 16mp.

Right now the 16mp sensor in the K-5 is still the reigning champion for APS-C quality at DxOMark, two years after it's introduction. Maybe Pentax didn't see any way to keep that record short of going full frame, and doesn't want to go full frame unless they can announce a raft of new lenses at the same time.

Then again maybe there will be a surprise announcement of a FF K-3 before the end of Photokina, but that does seem pretty unlikely.



On 9/11/2012 2:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
High Dollar perhaps?

I think they should have kept "SMC" and added "HD" to it. Your old lenses had "SMC" coating and your new lenses have "SMC-HD" coating. Build the brand on what everybody already knows is one of its strengths, instead of starting all over.

I get the feeling that's what the K5 II represents. It's an interim place holder because Ricoh has Pentax starting all over again. I really think Pentax has gotten behind because of the sale to Hoya and the sale again to Ricoh. And they're still flailing around trying to figure out what people will want to buy.

Meanwhile Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic et al have new product out there, and they're eating Pentax's lunch.

I understand there's not enough of us here at PDML to buy the numbers of cameras & lenses Pentax needs to sell in order to remain viable, so that Pentax has to attract new users. But it seems Pentax is trying to attract those new buyers by "me toing" Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic ... and I just don't think that's going to work. I don't think Pentax has a future if they're always going to be a day late & a dollar short in the market.

One of Pentax's biggest selling points was VALUE - you always got more for your money. Pentax might be six months behind whatever the latest gimmick was, but when the product hit the street, it would do it better and cost you less. I don't see that happening now.


From: "J.C. O'Connell"

A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt
even say what hd stands for.

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I don't think a lens coating replacement for SMC was on anyone's list, was
it?

But why oh why did they call it HD? Is this some marketing dweeb's
clever idea to get people to see HD in more places on the equipment




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