On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:19 PM, P. J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think Pentax is flailing around trying to figure out what people want > to buy. I think they know. They just couldn't get it done in time with the > constraints they're working under. > > First people want to buy full frame K-3, some will settle for a full frame > K-03. I think the market for full frame is very small, and I think Pentax knows that. They're sticking with the high volume products, while trying to please the advance amateurs as much as possible. A solid strategy that I'm okay with. Paul > > If they can't have that a K-5n (notice not the II) with the Sony 24 mp > sensor, would have caused grumbling but I bet 90% of the PDML would have one > within the next 6 months. I expect 99% of the Pentax forums members would > have had one within a year complaining bitterly all the while. > > I think Pentax would also be able to sell a fare number of K-02 cameras > assuming it was a K-01 with a built in EVF. > > There are a few problems however, for the K-3 and K-03 there would be only 7 > current lenses that are guaranteed to to cover the whole frame. Those > designated DA would probably automatically crop to APS-C. > > The 24mp sensor won't have the stellar noise control of the 16mp sensor in > current use. It will probably be better than Sony's implementation, by a > little, which is already good, but not as good as the 16mp. > > Right now the 16mp sensor in the K-5 is still the reigning champion for APS-C > quality at DxOMark, two years after it's introduction. Maybe Pentax didn't > see any way to keep that record short of going full frame, and doesn't want > to go full frame unless they can announce a raft of new lenses at the same > time. > > Then again maybe there will be a surprise announcement of a FF K-3 before the > end of Photokina, but that does seem pretty unlikely. > > > > On 9/11/2012 2:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >> High Dollar perhaps? >> >> I think they should have kept "SMC" and added "HD" to it. Your old lenses >> had "SMC" coating and your new lenses have "SMC-HD" coating. Build the brand >> on what everybody already knows is one of its strengths, instead of starting >> all over. >> >> I get the feeling that's what the K5 II represents. It's an interim place >> holder because Ricoh has Pentax starting all over again. I really think >> Pentax has gotten behind because of the sale to Hoya and the sale again to >> Ricoh. And they're still flailing around trying to figure out what people >> will want to buy. >> >> Meanwhile Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic et al have new product out there, >> and they're eating Pentax's lunch. >> >> I understand there's not enough of us here at PDML to buy the numbers of >> cameras & lenses Pentax needs to sell in order to remain viable, so that >> Pentax has to attract new users. But it seems Pentax is trying to attract >> those new buyers by "me toing" Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic ... and I just >> don't think that's going to work. I don't think Pentax has a future if >> they're always going to be a day late & a dollar short in the market. >> >> One of Pentax's biggest selling points was VALUE - you always got more for >> your money. Pentax might be six months behind whatever the latest gimmick >> was, but when the product hit the street, it would do it better and cost you >> less. I don't see that happening now. >> >> >> From: "J.C. O'Connell" >> >>> A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt >>> even say what hd stands for. >>> >>> ----------------- >>> J.C.O'Connell >>> hifis...@gate.net >>> ----------------- >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of >>> Bruce Walker >>> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:00 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Pentax announcements official >>> >>> I don't think a lens coating replacement for SMC was on anyone's list, was >>> it? >>> >>> But why oh why did they call it HD? Is this some marketing dweeb's >>> clever idea to get people to see HD in more places on the equipment >> >> > > > -- > Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a > lengthly search. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
