On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 07:37:28PM -0500, Walt wrote: > You're absolutely right, Larry. It was a lead-balloon experiment. > I'm going to pick up sync cords and wireless triggers next week, and > maybe see if I can pick up a reasonably priced slave.
I have had moderate luck with cheap chinese radio triggers from either dealextreme or linkdelight. About $10 per end. You have to use conventional AAA batteries because the hybrids have lower voltage and less range. Almost all strobes have a "dumb slave" optical mode. The ones that don't can be triggered with a dumb optical trigger, about $5-$10 online. > > Nevertheless, I'm starting to get the hang of manual flash and > that's a minor miracle in and of itself. If you want to impress me, get the hang of p-ttl flash. > > -- Walt > > On 6/4/2013 7:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >You will probably have the best luck, right off the bat, > >using all of the strobes in manual mode. This means you > >cannot trigger off the pop-up flash because Pentax can't > >understand why anyone would want to make any flash exposure > >decisions for themselves, or even worse, remotely trigger > >any flash that wasn't made with Pentax to use their wireless > >sync protocol. > > > >If you don't want the dumb strobe on the camera to illuminate > >the scene when it triggers the external strobes, put an IR filter > >in front of it: > >http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/292664-REG/LEE_Filters_87CP3_3_x_3_Infrared.html > > > > > >On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 04:56:12PM -0500, Walt wrote: > >>Ignore the last question. I just read (in some online literature > >>that didn't come with the unit) that it operates on the light from > >>the master flash, which I figure is good. I'm going to give it a > >>whirl with some confiscated toys and see what comes of it. > >> > >>-- Walt > >> > >>On 6/4/2013 4:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: > >>>Actually the AF 200T has a built in sensor, which can be used in > >>>either "red" or "green" mode to give pretty good automatic results > >>>even with the K20D so I expect that it will work just as well with > >>>the K-5. In fact the the flash recognizes the K20D in it's Green > >>>and P modes to set the suggested shutter speed and aperture, > >>>(including normal exposure biasing), it doesn't support any of the > >>>more advanced flash modes from the quick menu, but the fact that > >>>it does any of that at all is a plus. The AF 200S however > >>>supports TTL automatic only IIRC, so you can only use it as a > >>>manual flash. > >>> > >>>Pentax's P-TTL implementation on the K20D used to give such > >>>inconsistent results that Bill Robb seemed to have a daily rant > >>>about it a few years ago which stopped me from buying a more > >>>advanced flash than the AF 280T which works pretty much as the AF > >>>200T does. > >>> > >>>On 6/4/2013 3:14 PM, Walt wrote: > >>>>Well, crap. ;) > >>>> > >>>>On the plus-side, when I finally learn manual flash well enough > >>>>to get consistent and reasonably predictable results, I'll be > >>>>set! > >>>> > >>>>-- Walt > >>>> > >>>>On 6/4/2013 1:52 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >>>>>Sorry, Walt, these are strictly useful now as fully manual. They > >>>>>support TTL, but your cameras don't. And they don't have any slave > >>>>>functions at all. > >>>>> > >>>>>To use these wirelessly you need to get some cheap wireless triggers, > >>>>>like the Cowboy Studios NPT-04's ($20 for Tx/Rx). > >>>>> > >>>>>On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Walt <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>Thanks, Bruce. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Do you suppose they'd be good as slaves when used with > >>>>>>optical triggers? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-- Walt > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>On 6/4/2013 9:32 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >>>>>>>The AF200T is a pretty good fully manual flash for lower > >>>>>>>power uses. I > >>>>>>>just bought one for $30 to fit inside my small 18" softbox. The only > >>>>>>>problem, besides having a low GN is erratic recharge > >>>>>>>times. The AF200S > >>>>>>>is similar but less useful as its power setting is less adjustable. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Walt <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>So, I came an opportunity to buy this bunch of photo > >>>>>>>>equipment -- *for > >>>>>>>>the > >>>>>>>>paltry sum of $200* -- and couldn't pass on it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8943109389/#large > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Canon AE-1 Program with FD 50/1.8 attached - Excellent > >>>>>>>>Pentax ME Super with SMC-M 28/2.8 attached - Excellent > >>>>>>>>SMC-M 50/1.7 > >>>>>>>>SMC-M 80-200/4.5 > >>>>>>>>SMC-A 28-135/4 > >>>>>>>>AF200T Flash > >>>>>>>>AF200S flash > >>>>>>>>AFT1 Telephoto flash adapter > >>>>>>>>(2) cable releases > >>>>>>>>Tiffen 49mm Star Effect filter > >>>>>>>>Tiffen 52mm Polarizer > >>>>>>>>Tiffen 49mm Skylight 1A > >>>>>>>>Tiffen 52mm Skylight 1A > >>>>>>>>Tiffen Step-up ring (screw-in) > >>>>>>>>Cokin - Spot-Violet A64 > >>>>>>>>Cokin - Spot-Blue A67 > >>>>>>>>Cokin - Gradual M2 A. 127 > >>>>>>>>Cokin - Gradual E1 A. 130 > >>>>>>>>Cokin filter holder > >>>>>>>>All original caps, front and rear. > >>>>>>>>All original cases. > >>>>>>>>Original straps plus additional custom straps. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Everything looks to be well-nigh pristine. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I feel like I did pretty well. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>-- Walt > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>>>>>[email protected] > >>>>>>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>>>>>>to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > >>>>>>>>directly above and > >>>>>>>>follow the directions. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>-- > >>>>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>>>>[email protected] > >>>>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>>>>to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >>>>>>follow the directions. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >>-- > >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>[email protected] > >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >>follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Larry Colen [email protected] http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
