what did he say? why would we be insulted? if its poorly built, its
poorly built.

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One of local Pentaxians had 17-70/4. The SDM failed on him and being a
> handy person he took it apart. I won't repeat what he told me so as
> not to insult anyone. It was a very strong arguments against the SDM
> lenses, at least the cheaper ones.
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:27 PM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks for the comments so far. Given me some things to think about. I
>> have a fader ND filter at 67mm dia, so the Pentax 17-70 would fit it,
>> but leery of the SDM from what i have read previously. I don
>> t need IS as its in the K-5 body so that would be a wasted Sigma
>> feature. Decisions decisions.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I concur. Although when I first saw the lens in your hands, Jaume, I
>>> did not expect to own it some day. I should point that it is not that
>>> heavy given the speed and zoom range. It is rather well made although
>>> indeed eventually the zoom becomes creepy. It does have the zoom look
>>> that is handy for transportation, obviously.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Jaume Lahuerta <jlah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I also have the old Sigma 17-70 (actually I think that I have some 
>>>> responsibility in Boris owning one...) and I second Boris comments. The 
>>>> only complaint is that is is a bit heavy and the zoom eventually becomes 
>>>> loose.
>>>> I have physically seen the latest version and I have to admit that it 
>>>> looks and feels extremely compact.
>>>>
>>>> However, my favorite compromise range / IQ would be the 18-135. Sigma has 
>>>> one but its reputation is worst than the 17-70s and the Pentax one seems a 
>>>> bit expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jaume
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Mensaje original -----
>>>>> De: Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>> CC:
>>>>> Enviado: Martes 23 de julio de 2013 13:47
>>>>> Asunto: Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave, I've (the oldest version of) Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5. Such lenses
>>>>> can be had for order of USD 250-300. I cannot praise mine enough. It
>>>>> successfully replaced DA* 16-50/2.8. Later versions are 17-70/2.8-4.0
>>>>> (notice faster long end of the zoom range) and further introduced HSM
>>>>> (Sigma's ultrasonic AF) and OS (Optical image Stabilization). I opted
>>>>> out of these as I wanted something as simple as possible so that it
>>>>> won't break down just because.
>>>>>
>>>>> Optically I've no complaints at all. It just what suits me best right
>>>>> now if and when I have to shoot with DSLR.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:40 PM, David J Brooks <pentko...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>  Hey all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  This last week at the plow demo got me thinking again about my short
>>>>>>  zoom, the 16-45. Normally i take two cameras, the D2H with re 70-200
>>>>>>  VR f2.8 and the D200 with the 18-70. I use the 18-70 for the closer
>>>>>>  shots when the teams come at me. This year i took the K-5 and used the
>>>>>>  16-45. It performed fine, but at 45 at the long end just does not get
>>>>>>  what i want before i switch back to the longer zoom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  So
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Im thinking something along the lines of the Pentax or Sigma 17-70 ish
>>>>>>  lenses, and i think i saw on  Henrys site an 18-135???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I know these have come up before just looking for opinions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Also the 55-30 is still on my list, although the sales person at
>>>>>>  Henreys showed me the Sigma version, a bit cheaper and now i'm humming
>>>>>>  on that one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Comments about the short zooms or the Sigma 55-300 appreciated,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Dave
>>>>>>
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