Pretty much he said that it was shameful engineering... On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Zos Xavius <[email protected]> wrote: > what did he say? why would we be insulted? if its poorly built, its > poorly built. > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Boris Liberman <[email protected]> wrote: >> One of local Pentaxians had 17-70/4. The SDM failed on him and being a >> handy person he took it apart. I won't repeat what he told me so as >> not to insult anyone. It was a very strong arguments against the SDM >> lenses, at least the cheaper ones. >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:27 PM, David J Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thanks for the comments so far. Given me some things to think about. I >>> have a fader ND filter at 67mm dia, so the Pentax 17-70 would fit it, >>> but leery of the SDM from what i have read previously. I don >>> t need IS as its in the K-5 body so that would be a wasted Sigma >>> feature. Decisions decisions. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:21 AM, Boris Liberman <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I concur. Although when I first saw the lens in your hands, Jaume, I >>>> did not expect to own it some day. I should point that it is not that >>>> heavy given the speed and zoom range. It is rather well made although >>>> indeed eventually the zoom becomes creepy. It does have the zoom look >>>> that is handy for transportation, obviously. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Jaume Lahuerta <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I also have the old Sigma 17-70 (actually I think that I have some >>>>> responsibility in Boris owning one...) and I second Boris comments. The >>>>> only complaint is that is is a bit heavy and the zoom eventually becomes >>>>> loose. >>>>> I have physically seen the latest version and I have to admit that it >>>>> looks and feels extremely compact. >>>>> >>>>> However, my favorite compromise range / IQ would be the 18-135. Sigma has >>>>> one but its reputation is worst than the 17-70s and the Pentax one seems >>>>> a bit expensive. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Jaume >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Mensaje original ----- >>>>>> De: Boris Liberman <[email protected]> >>>>>> Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>>>>> CC: >>>>>> Enviado: Martes 23 de julio de 2013 13:47 >>>>>> Asunto: Re: the 16-45 to 17-70 range >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave, I've (the oldest version of) Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.5. Such lenses >>>>>> can be had for order of USD 250-300. I cannot praise mine enough. It >>>>>> successfully replaced DA* 16-50/2.8. Later versions are 17-70/2.8-4.0 >>>>>> (notice faster long end of the zoom range) and further introduced HSM >>>>>> (Sigma's ultrasonic AF) and OS (Optical image Stabilization). I opted >>>>>> out of these as I wanted something as simple as possible so that it >>>>>> won't break down just because. >>>>>> >>>>>> Optically I've no complaints at all. It just what suits me best right >>>>>> now if and when I have to shoot with DSLR. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:40 PM, David J Brooks <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hey all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This last week at the plow demo got me thinking again about my short >>>>>>> zoom, the 16-45. Normally i take two cameras, the D2H with re 70-200 >>>>>>> VR f2.8 and the D200 with the 18-70. I use the 18-70 for the closer >>>>>>> shots when the teams come at me. This year i took the K-5 and used the >>>>>>> 16-45. It performed fine, but at 45 at the long end just does not get >>>>>>> what i want before i switch back to the longer zoom. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Im thinking something along the lines of the Pentax or Sigma 17-70 ish >>>>>>> lenses, and i think i saw on Henrys site an 18-135??? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know these have come up before just looking for opinions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also the 55-30 is still on my list, although the sales person at >>>>>>> Henreys showed me the Sigma version, a bit cheaper and now i'm humming >>>>>>> on that one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Comments about the short zooms or the Sigma 55-300 appreciated, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >>>>>>> www.caughtinmotion.com >>>>>>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> York Region, Ontario, Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Boris >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>>> follow >>>>>> the directions. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Boris >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. >>> www.caughtinmotion.com >>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ >>> York Region, Ontario, Canada >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> Boris >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions.
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