Well said, Frank. I'm not even sure why Bipin posted this now. Apart from being wildly off topic (nothing wrong with that but we try to avoid politics, religion etc - see the FAQ - and the post should have been labelled O.T.), the entire issue dates from 2010-2012.
President Obama's announcement on December 16, as linked by Bipin, was December 16 2010 and James Alaya's report was May 2012. This is not exactly 'breaking news'. Cheers Brian ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Sun, Jul 5, 2015, at 01:55 PM, Knarf wrote: > Okay. The UN never said anything about returning the US to First Nations. > Never. > > James Alaya is a Special Rapporteur to the UN. He's not the UN. And he > never said anything about returning Manhattan to natives, either. He > spoke of some very specific disputed lands, to wit: > > JAMES ANAYA: "I’m not sure why that has grabbed the headlines so much. I > simply, in a press conference in Washington when I concluded my visit, > referred to the Black Hills as an example of an unsettled claim. The > Black Hills were taken illegally from the Lakota people, and that was > acknowledged by the United States Supreme Court itself. Compensation was > offered, but the Lakota people have refused to take the money because of > the significance that the Black Hills hold for them. And what I’ve said > is that that issue should be addressed and that ways should be explored > by which control or a reconnection, some kind of restoration, should > occur—could occur, by which the Lakota people could have a greater access > to the Black Hills, be more present there, and that place represent again > a part of the people, the Lakota people, as opposed to simply > representing their defeat and the negative side of history.Now, I haven’t > said anything about Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore could stay > under federal control, or it could be part of a joint management between > the federal government and the Lakota people. There are all kinds of > possibilities. I’ve simply said that this matter needs to be looked at as > part of the reconciliation that Congress itself says needs to take > place." > > Geez, sounds reasonable to me! > > Articles like the one posted remind me of the Protocols of the Elders of > Zion: make shit up, falsely attribute it to whomever you want to smear > and let the idiot right-wing press run with it. > > Yeah, there's a seed of truth to the extent that Alaya is proposing the > return of ~some~ disputed lands but to then say the the UN is calling for > the return of Manhattan is just an out and out lie. I'm suprised anyone > here bought that without further investigation. > Here's the full interview of Alaya, from his website: > > http://unsr.jamesanaya.org/visit-to-usa/un-probe-us-should-address-land-issues-as-part-of-reconciliation-with-native-americans-interview-democracynow > > For fuck sake! > > Cheers, > > frank > > On 4 July, 2015 1:35:57 PM EDT, Bipin Gupta <[email protected]> wrote: > >UN wants the US to return Native American lands. Read on here: > > > >http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/06/un-wants-the-us-to-return-native-american-lands/ > > > >The Sand Hill Indian Tribe located in New Jersey filed a lawsuit > >“claiming Manhattan, as well as the Hudson Areas, and the states of > >NJ, Delaware and Eastern Pennsylvania,” according to a Sand Hill press > >release. The Tribes stated “violation of human rights, genocide, and > >breaking of treaties etc.” > > > >http://www.vosizneias.com/58248/2010/06/18/new-york-ny-indian-tribe-filed-lawsuit-claiming-manhattan-was-taken-from-them-illegally/ > > > >The President announced on December 16 that the U.S. would reverse > >course and support the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of > >Indigenous People. The Declaration was adopted by the U.N. General > >Assembly in 2007, but the U.S., under President Bush, opposed it. > > > >http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/latest-right-wing-freak-out-obama-wants-to-give-manhattan-back-to-native-americans > > > >Israelis dressed as “Native Americans” protest in front of the US > >Embassy in Tel Aviv against US pressure on Israel to freeze settlement > >building. > > > >http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3764489,00.html > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >[email protected] > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > >follow the directions. > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -- -- http://www.fastmail.com - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
