It's interesting that the United Nations Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) was declared almost unanimously by the UN. Only four countries voted against it.
Care to guess who? Canada, the USA, Australia and New Zealand. All former British colonies. All now controlled by a white European majority population with a minority remnant indigenous population. The US and Canada have since made limited endorsement of UNDRIP, falling short of accepting that it's anywhere near legally binding. I make no further comment. Cheers, frank On 5 July, 2015 12:57:23 AM EDT, Brian Walters <[email protected]> wrote: >Well said, Frank. > >I'm not even sure why Bipin posted this now. Apart from being wildly >off topic (nothing wrong with that but we try to avoid politics, >religion etc - see the FAQ - and the post should have been labelled >O.T.), the entire issue dates from 2010-2012. > >President Obama's announcement on December 16, as linked by Bipin, was >December 16 2010 and James Alaya's report was May 2012. This is not >exactly 'breaking news'. > > > >Cheers > >Brian > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Brian Walters >Western Sydney Australia >http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > >On Sun, Jul 5, 2015, at 01:55 PM, Knarf wrote: >> Okay. The UN never said anything about returning the US to First >Nations. >> Never. >> >> James Alaya is a Special Rapporteur to the UN. He's not the UN. And >he >> never said anything about returning Manhattan to natives, either. He >> spoke of some very specific disputed lands, to wit: >> >> JAMES ANAYA: "I’m not sure why that has grabbed the headlines so >much. I >> simply, in a press conference in Washington when I concluded my >visit, >> referred to the Black Hills as an example of an unsettled claim. The >> Black Hills were taken illegally from the Lakota people, and that was >> acknowledged by the United States Supreme Court itself. Compensation >was >> offered, but the Lakota people have refused to take the money because >of >> the significance that the Black Hills hold for them. And what I’ve >said >> is that that issue should be addressed and that ways should be >explored >> by which control or a reconnection, some kind of restoration, should >> occur—could occur, by which the Lakota people could have a greater >access >> to the Black Hills, be more present there, and that place represent >again >> a part of the people, the Lakota people, as opposed to simply >> representing their defeat and the negative side of history.Now, I >haven’t >> said anything about Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore could stay >> under federal control, or it could be part of a joint management >between >> the federal government and the Lakota people. There are all kinds of >> possibilities. I’ve simply said that this matter needs to be looked >at as >> part of the reconciliation that Congress itself says needs to take >> place." >> >> Geez, sounds reasonable to me! >> >> Articles like the one posted remind me of the Protocols of the Elders >of >> Zion: make shit up, falsely attribute it to whomever you want to >smear >> and let the idiot right-wing press run with it. >> >> Yeah, there's a seed of truth to the extent that Alaya is proposing >the >> return of ~some~ disputed lands but to then say the the UN is calling >for >> the return of Manhattan is just an out and out lie. I'm suprised >anyone >> here bought that without further investigation. >> Here's the full interview of Alaya, from his website: >> >> >http://unsr.jamesanaya.org/visit-to-usa/un-probe-us-should-address-land-issues-as-part-of-reconciliation-with-native-americans-interview-democracynow >> >> For fuck sake! >> >> Cheers, >> >> frank >> >> On 4 July, 2015 1:35:57 PM EDT, Bipin Gupta <[email protected]> wrote: >> >UN wants the US to return Native American lands. Read on here: >> > >> >>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/06/un-wants-the-us-to-return-native-american-lands/ >> > >> >The Sand Hill Indian Tribe located in New Jersey filed a lawsuit >> >“claiming Manhattan, as well as the Hudson Areas, and the states of >> >NJ, Delaware and Eastern Pennsylvania,” according to a Sand Hill >press >> >release. The Tribes stated “violation of human rights, genocide, and >> >breaking of treaties etc.” >> > >> >>http://www.vosizneias.com/58248/2010/06/18/new-york-ny-indian-tribe-filed-lawsuit-claiming-manhattan-was-taken-from-them-illegally/ >> > >> >The President announced on December 16 that the U.S. would reverse >> >course and support the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of >> >Indigenous People. The Declaration was adopted by the U.N. General >> >Assembly in 2007, but the U.S., under President Bush, opposed it. >> > >> >>http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/latest-right-wing-freak-out-obama-wants-to-give-manhattan-back-to-native-americans >> > >> >Israelis dressed as “Native Americans” protest in front of the US >> >Embassy in Tel Aviv against US pressure on Israel to freeze >settlement >> >building. >> > >> >http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3764489,00.html >> > >> >-- >> >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >[email protected] >> >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and >> >follow the directions. >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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