Thanks for the clarification, Frank. Greatly appreciated. There is something on which we here in the US could profitably reflect—the injustice we have inflicted on Native American peoples. That, and what justice might amount to in present circumstances.
> On Jul 4, 2015, at 11:55 PM, Knarf <[email protected]> wrote: > > Okay. The UN never said anything about returning the US to First Nations. > Never. > > James Alaya is a Special Rapporteur to the UN. He's not the UN. And he never > said anything about returning Manhattan to natives, either. He spoke of some > very specific disputed lands, to wit: > > JAMES ANAYA: "I’m not sure why that has grabbed the headlines so much. I > simply, in a press conference in Washington when I concluded my visit, > referred to the Black Hills as an example of an unsettled claim. The Black > Hills were taken illegally from the Lakota people, and that was acknowledged > by the United States Supreme Court itself. Compensation was offered, but the > Lakota people have refused to take the money because of the significance that > the Black Hills hold for them. And what I’ve said is that that issue should > be addressed and that ways should be explored by which control or a > reconnection, some kind of restoration, should occur—could occur, by which > the Lakota people could have a greater access to the Black Hills, be more > present there, and that place represent again a part of the people, the > Lakota people, as opposed to simply representing their defeat and the > negative side of history.Now, I haven’t said anything about Mount Rushmore. > Mount Rushmore could stay > under federal control, or it could be part of a joint management between the > federal government and the Lakota people. There are all kinds of > possibilities. I’ve simply said that this matter needs to be looked at as > part of the reconciliation that Congress itself says needs to take place." > > Geez, sounds reasonable to me! > > Articles like the one posted remind me of the Protocols of the Elders of > Zion: make shit up, falsely attribute it to whomever you want to smear and > let the idiot right-wing press run with it. > > Yeah, there's a seed of truth to the extent that Alaya is proposing the > return of ~some~ disputed lands but to then say the the UN is calling for the > return of Manhattan is just an out and out lie. I'm suprised anyone here > bought that without further investigation. > Here's the full interview of Alaya, from his website: > > http://unsr.jamesanaya.org/visit-to-usa/un-probe-us-should-address-land-issues-as-part-of-reconciliation-with-native-americans-interview-democracynow > > For fuck sake! > > Cheers, > > frank > > On 4 July, 2015 1:35:57 PM EDT, Bipin Gupta <[email protected]> wrote: >> UN wants the US to return Native American lands. Read on here: >> >> http://hotair.com/archives/2012/05/06/un-wants-the-us-to-return-native-american-lands/ >> >> The Sand Hill Indian Tribe located in New Jersey filed a lawsuit >> “claiming Manhattan, as well as the Hudson Areas, and the states of >> NJ, Delaware and Eastern Pennsylvania,” according to a Sand Hill press >> release. The Tribes stated “violation of human rights, genocide, and >> breaking of treaties etc.” >> >> http://www.vosizneias.com/58248/2010/06/18/new-york-ny-indian-tribe-filed-lawsuit-claiming-manhattan-was-taken-from-them-illegally/ >> >> The President announced on December 16 that the U.S. would reverse >> course and support the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of >> Indigenous People. The Declaration was adopted by the U.N. General >> Assembly in 2007, but the U.S., under President Bush, opposed it. >> >> http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/latest-right-wing-freak-out-obama-wants-to-give-manhattan-back-to-native-americans >> >> Israelis dressed as “Native Americans” protest in front of the US >> Embassy in Tel Aviv against US pressure on Israel to freeze settlement >> building. >> >> http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3764489,00.html >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA [email protected] "You keep on learning and learning, and pretty soon you learn something no one has learned before." - Richard Feynman -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
