But we're not talking about the Normans, Moors or the Vikings. We're talking 
about white European conquerors who invaded the Americas on behalf of their 
imperial masters. Part of that invasion included the attempted genocide of 
certain native groups. Others were imprisoned and culturally raped. 

This is not ancient history. As recently as the 1970s in Canada native children 
were forced to attend "residential schools" where they were systemically 
sexually and physically abused and were routinely punished if they even spoke 
their native language.

As recently as the 1950s and 60s Inuit communities were forcibly moved to into 
"modern" communities hundreds of miles from their ancestral homes, all to 
enhance our sovereignty claims to the far north against the Soviets. 

So I don't know when the "cut off" should be,  but like Africans stolen and 
brought into North American slavery or European Jews rounded up by Germans in 
the 30s and 40s, this claim is recent ~and ongoing~ and so is deserving of our 
government's attention. Justice is possible but we first have to acknowledge a 
problem.

Cheers,

frank





On 5 July, 2015 4:22:44 PM EDT, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 7/4/2015 3:47 PM, Eric Weir wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 4, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The UN can, of course, try to enforce its silly decisions, but
>>> that would reveal it for what it really is -- a relic of times gone
>>> by.
>>
>> Yeah, off topic. Nevertheless, just to take this example, returning
>> the lands claimed, even after adjudication, would at this time be
>> awkward in a number of respects. It seems unnecessary, however, to
>> characterize the decisions as “silly.” Especially given the fact of
>> the genocide committed on native Americans by people coming from
>> Europe. We would do well to reflect on that fact and on what justice
>> might require as a response.
>>
>
>Yeah, but how far back do you set the cut-off?
>
>Does Spain have to give half the country back to the Moors?
>
>Do the Vikings have to give up Normandy? Or will it be enough to give
>England back to the Anglo-Saxons. For that matter, how much do the
>Anglo-Saxons have to give back to the Celts & Picts?
>
>Who gets to take over Gaul? Do the Suebi give up the Rhineland? Do the
>Helvetii leave Switzerland?
>
>Are the Achaeans going to have to rebuild the walls of Troy?
>
>Native Americans are migrants themselves if you go back far enough.
>They
>just took a different route out of Asia.
>
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