It's driving me nuts... my friend says the photo in the frame is still
packaged as it was returned to her from either an appraisesr or the
place the original owner got it from.. it was shipped back because she
was told she could probabl get more for it than the $1500 that was
offered for a sell-back.
But I'm struggling to get her to examine the package for a return
address so they could be contacted to possibly determine the info from
sales records..
signature and numbering etc... sigh.
Considering contacting Mangelsen gallery... The framing may have been
the specific choice of the original owner.
ann
On 12/20/2018 12:03 PM, John wrote:
I note that Mangelsen Gallery doesn't identify a photographer, but
presumably if another photographer had taken it, the gallery would
attribute it to them, so it "must" have been taken by Thomas
Mangelsen. ???
That raises more questions than it answers.
We now have three versions of the same image (one a mirror copy)
supposedly taken by Thomas Mangelsen, Kennan Ward and/or Tom & Pat
Leeson.
I just don't see the three** of them standing tripod to tripod to
tripod photographing the same trio of bears. So who plagiarized whom?
I still wonder how the two versions of the image came to be mirrored
and was it taken in Churchill in Manitoba or at ANWR in Alaska ... or
somewhere else? But that's the least of the questions I have about the
image.
Another thing ... if it was purchased from Mangelsen Gallery, there
should be a label on the back, especially if it's a limited edition
print (certificate of authenticity?). A limited edition print should
also be signed & numbered, usually on the mat.
Finally, that's a mighty cheap looking frame for an image that sold
for so much.
On 12/19/2018 22:49:33, ann sanfedele wrote:
John - Ken wrote me off list - I didnt realise he had not sent his
reply to the list.. As a result of his correct ID I replied...
Third attribution today... I think you have the right answer --
The price adds up to what friend 1 paid for it
https://www.mangelsen.com/platinum-level-images/winter-solace-2446.html
and who was it that noted that it could have been taken on a photo
outing in in Churchill - I knew (or felt certain that was where it
was taken)
thanks, Ken
ann
On 12/19/2018 8:04 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
Ann, it's a Thomas Mangelsen image titled "Winter Solace", one of
1500 copies, with only 5 left for sale by Mangelsen - it goes for
$1595. A mother polar bear and cubs are a familiar subject for those
that photograph them.
Hope this helps.
On 12/19/2018 10:31 PM, John wrote:
This particular trio of bears appears to have been photographed at
ANWR - the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska.
On 12/19/2018 17:42:41, Jostein wrote:
My thought as well, Bob. A very popular place for North American
photographers is the town Churchill in Canada, situated on the
Hudson Bay where polar bears gather to wait for the bay to freeze
over so they can go hunt seals.
https://www.google.com/search?q=polar+bear+churchill&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwibrqiN-6zfAhWEESwKHW2ICKMQsAR6BAgAEAE&biw=1920&bih=1064
Jostein
Den 19.12.2018 22:54, skrev Bob W-PDML:
That's interesting. It looks to me as though the Kennan and Leeson
photos are separate pictures of the same scene, taken at the same
time with the photographers next to each other, for example on the
same expedition/photo tour. Look at the tuft of grass in each one
in relation to the bears - it shows slightly different angles. Or
it could be that the site I linked to had wrongly attributed the
photo.
** Four counting Pat Leeson.
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