Speaking of ethos, I've been meaning to explore the historicism and pragmatism of Joseph Margolis, with the hope that he'll show me a valid development of pragmatism and bring to light Peirce's postulates. You might want to take a look at him to see if you're similarly attracted to his ideas.

Matt

On 4/8/14, 4:38 AM, Stefan Berwing wrote:
Kirsti, Phyllis, Cathy, Matt,

yes, i already thought sombody would make this point after sending my mail. But no, i just take beauty as an instance of the admirable. Means there can be beauty in the unbeautiful, which can even make the unbeautiful admirable.

I can't find the reference, but i remember Peirce saying that thinking something is ugly and therefore unadmirable is just a lack of aesthetical education. This is something that raises my doubt. Doesn't education already need an ethos?

That is the reason why i do see Phyllis point, but she/ you also introduce already value-laden terms (community, environment) to put under the thing to be explained. I just don't see how such values/ideals could be derived from aesthetics, because aesthetical education already needs some kind of ethos. Or the other way round, how could one learn to see the admirability of things without a certain kind of ethos?

As i see it, at some point you have to ram a post into the ground. Which basically means to say: don't be egoistic or other world-views are possible or foucauldian "don't positively define the human". To me this seems to be some kind of unfoundationalist foundation one can get along with.

I just believe Peirce to be circular, if you read over his different approaches to the topic.

Best
Stefan
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