John wrote:

"I am not arguing that pure firsts are not real;            (6231-1)
I am arguing that they are not what we experience
directly."

Let me expose my ignorance.  Is this what is known as "constructive realism"?

With all the bet.

Sung



> At 08:00 PM 2014-08-03, Stephen C. Rose wrote:
>>The notion of how signs get to their editing is clearly ultimately a
>>matter of theory. But the theory can stipulate that there is the
>>penumbra which I infer from direct experience.
>
> I don't think you entitled to do this. Do you really think I would be
> so stupid as to ignore this possibility? I am arguing that what you
> experience is already interpreted, and hence not a pure first.
>
>>  Indeed, merely because we use words and theories, of necessity,
>> does not mean that they do not correctly infer things that are
>> real, including things to which we have given names. For example
>> the word tolerance refers to something which I believe is real,
>> along with other values, And by real I mean they are universal and
>> universally applicable. Now that is clearly all theoretical, but it
>> makes all the difference if what you are theorizing is something
>> you take to be fundamental to reality.
>
> Yes, but this is rather beside the point. I am not arguing that pure
> firsts are not real; I am arguing that they are not what we
> experience directly.
>
> John
>
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