Jon - I believe mothers who deny basic care to their fetuses and babies are a minority, and that when the neglected/abandoned children get older they are often emotionally disturbed and have an impaired ability to think objectively.
That does not seem to be the right starting point for a discussion of instinct & emotion in the logical process. If we want to discuss human instinct, we should focus on a representative human instead of an abnormal one. (The logic of emotionally damaged people is more psychology than philosophy.) Regards, Tom Wyrick > On Jul 17, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jon Awbrey <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tom, List, > > Having done statistical consulting for nurse researchers I can tell you that > "low birth-weight babies" and "mother-infant communication" are two major > areas of research and practice. In neither case is perinatal life quite so > halcyon as we'd like to imagine. > > Regards, > > Jon > >> On 7/17/2015 11:53 AM, Ozzie wrote: >> Ben, list - >> Thanks for your interesting comments. I will spend more time thinking about >> them later today. >> >> Let me briefly address one sentence from your comments: "I'd say that >> instincts can also be triggered _inside_ the body, e.g., by prolonged >> emptiness of the stomach." >> >> According to the common definition (interpretant) instincts are triggered by >> things in the external world. Before birth, food is ALWAYS available to >> the baby. After birth, and assuming an attentive mother (caregiver), food >> continues to be available without any effort or reciprocation on the baby's >> behalf. This goes on daily for many years, so not feeling hunger pains >> becomes the norm, the expectation. >> >> Against that backdrop, when food is withheld (by the external environment), >> one's sensation of hunger (-) is a disturbance to the status quo (0), which >> summons the instinct to do something (+) to make that "pain" go away. When >> something from the environment is eaten (+), the sensation (-) disappears >> (0). >> >> It is in this sense hunger pains and their elimination are related to >> (triggered by) the individual's contact with the external world. If the >> individual eats a full meal AND THEN feels hungry, I agree that particular >> sensation has an *internal trigger (likely emotions or a physical >> disability). >> >> Regards, >> Tom Wyrick >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Benjamin Udell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Regarding some of your comments, I'd say that instincts can also be >>> triggered _inside_ the body, e.g., by prolonged emptiness of the stomach. >
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