(Please ignore the previous post which was sent accidentally and prematurely).
Hi Clark, Edwina, Matt, lists, Can it be that all three are essential as indicated in Figure 1 -- i) Environment (also called the physical), ii) Mind (also called the mental), and iii) Structure (also called the world of structures). I am suggesting this possibility primarily based on the triadic model of the world proposed by Burgin [1, p. 60] and the Peircean idea of ITR (Irreducible Triadic Relation). World of structure (Structures) / \ / \ / \ Physical world -------- Mental world (Environment) (Mind) Figure 1. The triadic model of the world by Burign [1] It is interesting to note that Burgin puts Plato's *Ideas* and *Forms *in the Mental world and mathematical *formulas* and *categories* in the World of structures [1, pp. 56-92]. Combining Figure 1 and the ITR template leads to Figure 2: f g Physical world -------> World of structures ------> Mental (Firstness ?) (Secondness?) (Thridness ?) [Object] [Sign] [Interpretant] {Emotion ?} {Cognition ?} {Credition ?} | ^ | | |___________________________________| h Figure 2. The world as the embodiment of the Irreducible Triadic Relation (ITR). f = physical evolution; g = biological evolution or 'anapoiesis' of Nikolic [2] (?); h = information flow, which may be related to the *enclosure function* of the ultimate 'bab' or 'babushka' of Angel [3]. It is evident in Figure 2 that ITR is a useful template for revealing the *similarities* and *connections* hidden under seemingly unrelated and dissimilar triads as exemplified by (i) Burign's model of the world, (ii) Pericean (metaphysics), (iii) [Peircean semiotics], and (iv) {Angels theory of credition}. Also Figure 2 may accommodate the concept of 'bab' introduced by Angel (2013, 2016) which was found to be useful in describing the characteristic properties of creditive process. The term comes from the 'babushka' dolls, the larger ones enclosing the smaller ones. This hierarchical structure of the nesting dolls inspired Angel to coin the neologism, imparting to it several anthropocentric properties characteristic of the process of believing (Angel, 2013, 2016): (i) Enclosure function = the cognitive process constituting or modifying propositions (bab-configurations) such as vague ideas, confirmed knowledge, values, or even moral claims (ii) Converter function = the belief process activated when bab-configurations are transformed into action (iii) S*tabilizer-function* = changes fluid bab-configurations by repetition into stable attitudes and mindsets (iv) M*odulator-function* = highlights in a specific way the differences of individuals and the differences of situations, in which creditive process can occur. Angel (2016) describes the context in which he was motivated to coin "bab" as follows: “. . . we had to introduce a term that integrates both – cognitive and emotional aspects. Thus “bab” was introduced to denote such a known item that consists of the contents of beliefs. Each “bab” can carry specific emotional value and describes an item at various levels of complexity. The term “bab” is a meta-theoretically conceived neologism inspired by the hierarchical organization of the “Babushka” doll (in some regions also called “Matreshka”). Similarly to such a doll of different “sizes”, the same contents of a “bab” can exist with different values of “mightiness”, expressing the different personal relevance of the belief content. . . .” All the best. Sung References: [1] Burgin, M (2010) Theory of Information: Fundamentality, Diversity and Unification. World Scientific, New Jersey. [2] Nikolic D (2015) *Practopoiesis*: Or How life fosters a mind. J. theoret. Biol. 373:40-61. [3] Angel, H.-F. (2013) Encyclopedia of Sciences and Religions (Runehov A L, Oviedo L, and Azari N P, eds). Springer, Dordrecht, pp. 536-539. [4] Angel H.-F. (2016) A Process of Merging Interior and Exterior Reality: A Short View on the Structure of Credition, in: Teixeira, Maria-Teresa (Ed): Mind in Nature, in: European Studies in Process Thought, 2016, Cambridge Scholars Publishing [in press]. On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Clark Goble <cl...@lextek.com> wrote: > > On Oct 19, 2015, at 1:25 PM, Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote: > > Clark - I prefer not to think of Jung. You wrote: > > "the sorts of things structuralism dealt with in treating the mind as > literature were correct." > > I'm not sure what you mean by the above. > > > In most ways psychoanalysis is treating the mind (especially dreams) as if > they were a literary work to be interpreted with the various ways > literature was interpreted. That’s why even though Jung, Freud and company > aren’t typically taken seriously in science they still are in literature > departments. > > The way a person interprets literature simply is quite different from say > what goes on in contemporary psychology or cognitive science. > > > > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L > but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the > BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm > . > > > > > > -- Sungchul Ji, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Pharmacology and Toxicology Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy Rutgers University Piscataway, N.J. 08855 732-445-4701 www.conformon.net
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