Jerry, Jon, list,

 

In CP3.469 (1897), Peirce gives a diagram of the ammonia molecule which simply 
shows that the nitrogen ion has a valence of three, hence the formula NH3. He 
compares it to a predicate which takes three subjects. So we have two diagrams 
with three “spokes” each How else would you diagram that valency relationship?

 

This valency diagram is obviously NOT a diagram of a triadic relation such as 
sign-object-interpretant, nor was it intended to be one.

 

By the way, since Jon’s diagram is nothing like an Existential Graph, I don’t 
know why Jon refers to the central unit in it as a “spot.” Peirce uses that 
term only in the context of Existential Graphs, which are also not diagrams of 
the sign-object-interpretant relation.

 

Gary f. 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 5-Apr-16 00:24
To: Peirce List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Systems Of Interpretation

 

Jon, John:

 

Thanks, Jon.

 

The question I raised was in order to seek alternative interpretations of CSP’s 
diagram of a chemical structure, ammonia.  (NH3)

 

He showed it as a triad.  The nitrogen atom was in the middle of the three 
hydrogens, each at the end of a spoke.  NOT a triangle.  

 

But, the chemical atoms are all of the nature and co-exist as relatives.  So, 
four atoms but only a triad. 

Why?

 

My feeling is that CSP wanted a triad so that he made one.

This is not a satisfactory inquiry into a  diagrammatic assertion.

 

Cheers

 

Jerry

 

 

 

> On Apr 3, 2016, at 5:04 PM, Jon Awbrey < <mailto:[email protected]> 
> [email protected]> wrote:

> 

> Peircers,

> 

> Questions about the meaning of the “central hub” in the “three-spoked” 

> picture of an elementary sign relation have often come up, just 

> recently among Jerry Chandler's questions and a question Mary Libertin 

> asked on my blog.

> Maybe the answer I gave there can help to clear that up:

> 

>  <http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/03/31/systems-of-interpretation-%E2> 
> http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/03/31/systems-of-interpretation-%E2

> %80%A2-5/#comment-32800

> 

> The central “spot”, as Peirce called it [in his logical graphs], is 

> located on a different logical plane, since it is really a 

> place-holder for the whole sign relation or possibly for the 

> individual triple.  Normally I would have labeled it with a letter to 

> indicate the whole sign relation, say L, or else the individual 

> triple, say ℓ = (o, s, i).

> 

> Regards,

> 

> Jon

> 

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