Peircers, I've been trying to sort through the explosion of topics and tangents that have arisen over the past month -- disruptions in my actual and virtual office spaces have made it hard for for me to keep track -- I still have the general impression that many things that used to be relatively well understood among Peircean pilgrims are no longer so commonly consensual.
I can almost hear Galadriel's prologue echoing in my ears ... ☞ http://www.tk421.net/lotr/film/fotr/01.html Auditory hallucinations are a bad sign, of course, but I'm abducing a symptom of caffeine deficiency. I'm still not sure how we jumped from relatively simple questions about the meaning of correspondence and determination in Peirce's definition of triadic sign relations to all the other issues that flared up, and I'm not seeing anything in MS 612 that Peirce didn't say many times before, perhaps less subtly but rather more concretely and thus more clearly for all that. By way of trying to get organized again, or maybe just recapping my part before moving on, I'll post links to the blog rewrites of my main comments over the past month, where I was able to edit for clarity and add links to more references and resources. Definition and Determination https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/04/definition-and-determination-11/ https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/14/definition-and-determination-12/ https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/15/definition-and-determination-13/ Readings On Determination https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/11/readings-on-determination/ https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/22/readings-on-determination-%E2%80%A2-1/ Readings On Determination : Discussion https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/21/readings-on-determination-%E2%80%A2-discussion-1/ https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/21/readings-on-determination-%E2%80%A2-discussion-2/ https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/23/readings-on-determination-%E2%80%A2-discussion-3/ Types of Reasoning in C.S. Peirce and Aristotle https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/26/types-of-reasoning-in-c-s-peirce-and-aristotle-%E2%80%A2-1/ https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/04/28/types-of-reasoning-in-c-s-peirce-and-aristotle-%E2%80%A2-2/ Abduction, Deduction, Induction, Analogy, Inquiry https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2016/05/01/abduction-deduction-induction-analogy-inquiry-23/ Regards, Jon On 4/4/2016 9:40 AM, Jon Awbrey wrote:
Peircers, The subject of determination comes up from time to time. Here is a link to an assortment of excerpts I collected back when I was first trying to understand the meaning of determination as it figures in Peirce's definition of a sign relation. http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/User:Jon_Awbrey/EXCERPTS Looking back over many previous discussions on the Peirce List, I think the most important and frequently missed point is that concepts like correspondence and determination in Peirce refer to triadic forms of correspondence and determination, and that these do not reduce to the dyadic structures that are endemic to the more reductionist paradigms. In this more general perspective, the family of concepts including correspondence, determination, law, relation, structure, and so on all fall under the notion of constraint. Constraint is present in a system to the extent that one set of choices is distinguished by some mark from a larger set of choices. That mark may distinguish the actual from the possible, the desired from the conceivable, or any number of other possibilities depending on the subject in view. Regards, Jon
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