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}The communal might be present but in degenerate form. Remember,
there are three modes of Thirdness - and three types of irrational
'Fixation of Belief'; i.e., deriving one's beliefs via Tenacity, A
Priori or Authority.
Edwina
On Sat 30/09/17 5:39 PM , "Stephen C. Rose" [email protected]
sent:
Everything does move past the individual to social or community or
whatever name we give the living. Because triadic thinking inevitably
moves to expression and action there is no way the social element
cannot be present in some form.
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On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote:
John, list,
I acknowledge your point, but even that rock's reaction involves
Thirdness; i.e., the material composition of the rock that defines
how it will react to an external force.
I think my possibly irrelevant point was/is that Thirdness
necessarily involves the community - either past or present community
- but, something beyond the informational isolation of the individual.
I agree with your comment that relativism "seems to be a more
intellectual process (reasoning)
than an immediate feeling or reaction. " What I'm trying to include
is its closure to information.
Edwina
On Sat 30/09/17 12:33 PM , John F Sowa [email protected] [3] sent:
On 9/30/2017 10:54 AM, Edwina Taborsky wrote:
> Firstness and Secondness [Feeling and Reaction] exist within
> the individual and, if the process of forming conclusions is
> confined to these two modes - it is indeed a relativist opinion.
>
> It is only within the action of Thirdness that the 'controlled
action'
> that is a reasoned process can develop.
In any perception, there is always an open-ended range of possible
interpretations. And the interpretations (first, second, or third)
always depend on the experience and nature of the interpreter.
A cat, dog, or human, for example, may enjoy certain kinds of music.
The most advanced kind of enjoyment, by a professional musician,
would depend on "controlled reasoning", but even the professionals
disagree -- and their reasons can span a wide range of options.
For Secondness, a rock will react to a sharp blow in a precisely
controlled manner. But humans may react in complex ways that
depend on their background knowledge and reasoning.
Relativism seems to be a more intellectual process (reasoning)
than an immediate feeling or reaction.
John
PS (cat anecdote): I heard a story about two cats that were
comfortably content while the radio played Bach and Mozart.
But when a dissonant 20th-c. composition came up, they left
the room. Their human also switched the station. Which ones
were feeling, reacting, or reasoning?
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