I have never in any forum seen more quibbling over terms which either
cannot be clarified or need not be clarified. I think this is not great for
this forum. I see little here that convinces me that what is truly
revolutionary in Peirce -- his convincing attacks on nominalism and
dualism,  the things he clearly identifies as general or universal, his
insistence on an ultimate union of what was called metaphysical with what
is called empirical or simply science, etc, etc. will ever get a hearing if
this is a conduit to a wider world.

I personally feel that Peirce by standing for the triadic as against the
binary is more than significant. But I see little effort to apply that to
practical matters. Maybe we do not want to acknowledge what that might mean
in terms of what we most deeply believe. Peirce didn't go there either in
any prescriptive sense.

Reading here I must confess I feel less drawn to Peirce. Maybe we should
blame Peirce for leaving things in a jumble. But we should not perpetuate
it.

I am not complaining because things cannot be said elsewhere. They can and
will be. I am just tired of reading the first parts of posts whose
remaining parts can be easily inferred and appear to repeat mainly
bilateral conversations. I am sure inclusion is among the dominant values
here. Maybe I am just harping away. Forgive me.
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