Edwina, List: The only obvious contradiction that I see in your summary is between these two claims.
ET: the Quasi-Mind is a bundle of habits capable of habit change by experience [Note: this rules out Firstness in this situation] ET: Form = 1stness Why would my concept of Quasi-mind "rule out 1ns in this situation"? Frankly, I am not even sure what that means. On the contrary, Peirce explicitly stated that "the perfect Sign never ceases to undergo changes of the kind we rather drolly call *spontaneous*, that is, they happen *sua sponte* but not by its will. They are phenomena of growth." This sounds like 1ns to me. Furthermore, since a Quasi-mind is an Argument and therefore a Symbol, it necessarily *involves *all degenerate Sign types, including Rhemes and Icons, which are also manifestations of 1ns. Remember, I only associate Form with 1ns where it corresponds to Matter as 2ns and Entelechy as 3ns; i.e., signified qualities (predicates), denoted objects (subjects), and Signs that bring them together, respectively. In fact, I suspect that Peirce used the term "perfect Sign" with this very notion of Entelechy (perfection) in mind, since he defined it as "the aggregate formed by a sign and all the signs which its occurrence carries with it," encompassing Signs from all ten (or even 66) classes. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote: > Jon - just a few of my concerns about your definitions - but - I'm not > going to get into another endless debate. I'm sure you'll respond - but - > we'll have to leave it with that. > > You have informed us, in this thread that: > > .Perfect Sign = a Quasi-mind > > - the Quasi-Mind is a bundle of habits capable of habit change by > experience [Note: this rules out Firstness in this situation] > > - Mind=Quasi-mind > > - Agent= Quasi-mind > > - Utterer and Interpreter are individual Quasi-minds that become welded in > the sign > > - the Sign = a medium of communication of a Form between them > > - Form = 1stness. > > I don't know if you can see the contradictions and problems in these > definitions. > > Edwina >
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