Helmut, List:

I agree with Jeff that "perfect" in this context does not have a Platonic
meaning, but rather--as I have stated previously--is related to the
Aristotelian notion of Entelechy.  In fact, here is another passage that *might
*provide more clues about what Peirce meant by a "perfect Sign."

CSP:  Aristotle gropes for a conception of *perfection*, or *entelechy*,
which he never succeeds in making clear. We may adopt the word to mean the
very fact, that is, *the ideal sign which should be quite perfect*, and so
identical,--in such identity as a sign may have,--with the very matter
denoted united with the very form signified by it" (EP 2:304; 1904,
emphases added).


As for why we "always dive deeply into Peirce's writings"--this is, after
all, a *Peirce *List; and the fact that we (at least some of us) strive
diligently to remain faithful to his basic ideas and careful terminology *does
not* entail that we are not *also *thinking very much for ourselves, as I
believe this thread amply illustrates.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Helmut Raulien <[email protected]> wrote:

> List,
> Quasi and not-quasi, perfect and imperfect, genuine and degenerate: I find
> it boring, and it reminds me of dogmatism and fundamentalism. By saying
> that it reminds me, I dont mean it as an offence. Rather like proposing the
> application of Ockham´s razor: Why don´t you try to find a way to avoid an
> agonistic continuity concept (a competition of quality-related valuing),
> when there is a chance to do (avoid) so? I am trying that all the time,
> sometimes with good and sometimes with faulty results. It would make things
> much easier if successfully achieved. Anyway, what has a sign to do with
> perfection? The idea of perfection is Platonism, as if there were perfect
> ideas already existing, to whom a sign more or less might match. This has
> nothing to do with the Peircean concept of "habit". It are two
> contradicting ideologies. And, why do you always dive deeply into Peirce´s
> writings instead of to think yourselves? Peirce was no all-knowing god, was
> he? And, but that is abstraction from me to others, thinking myself is much
> more fun than hermeneutics.
> Best,
> Helmut
>
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