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}Agree - it takes long term observation to observe the habits and
patterns of interaction within a society.

        I examine it via a number of areas: First - the ecological biome
[soil type, water type, nature of plants and animals, climate]. Then,
the population size, which is a key hard statistic.. And then...and
one can almost 'guess' the result...the economic mode, which will, in
a pre-industrial society, be directly connected to the ecology and the
population size.  Then, the political mode, or 'who is authorized to
make the laws'. ..which will always be: whoever creates
wealth/food/sustenance in the society. This is the basic set and
aren't conceptual but can be deduced from hard data.  The ideologies,
the belief system and education/religion/etc..are rooted in the basic
set. 

        As a cat-person, I agree - one can figure out if the cat has been a
pet..or, rather, if the cat has at some time, managed to control some
hapless human to serve its cat-needs. 

        Edwina
 On Tue 10/04/18  4:33 PM , John F Sowa [email protected] sent:
 On 4/10/2018 4:02 PM, Edwina Taborsky wrote: 
 > As for societies, I view them as compositions of matter [made up
of  
 > ecological biomes and population size and economic mode], held
together  
 > by conceptual Thirdness. 
 Yes.  But a society is like a pet cat.  You can recognize the people

 or the cat, but what makes a cat into a pet or people into a society

 is not directly observable. 
 But it's possible to infer that role by long-term investigation. 
 By watching how the cat behaves, you can tell that it has been 
 and possibly still is a pet. 
 For cats, a direct question isn't helpful.  For people, you can 
 also ask them "Are you here for some sort of event?" 
 Summary:  role types cannot be distinguished by a snapshot, 
 but they can be detected by a combination of observations 
 and inferences. 
 John 
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