Cf: Semiotics, Semiosis, Sign Relations : 4 At: https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2019/04/29/semiotics-semiosis-sign-relations-%e2%80%a2-4/
All, Questions about the use of "semiotic triangles" and/or "semiotic triskelia" to represent triadic sign relations have come up again, as they often do in the wider world, prompting me to revisit an earlier comment on the subject and tri, tri again to render the issues as clear as I can, otherwise we appear doomed never to get off triangle one. Re: Semiotic Triangle 1 : https://www.academia.edu/s/82ada7ef2e/semiotic-triangle-zero-update-2-0 2 : https://www.academia.edu/34149912/Semiotic_Triangle_Charting_the_expression-sense-reference_distinction Re: John Corcoran At: https://www.facebook.com/groups/peircesociety/permalink/1569171163218870/ At: https://www.facebook.com/groups/peircesociety/permalink/1735601909909127/ Concepts for Peirce are mental symbols, so they fall under the general designation of signs. For triadic sign relations in general, then, we are dealing with a triadic relation among (1) "objects" of signs, (2) "signs" of objects, and (3) what Peirce calls "interpretant signs", or "interpretants" for short. It is critical to regard the 3 designations of objects, signs, and interpretants as relational roles not ontological essences. It is also critical to distinguish the following things: * The extended sign relation L as a subset of a cartesian product O x S x I, * The elementary sign relation as an ordered triple (o, s, i) in O x S x I, * The places forming an ordered triple (o, s, i), * The elements o, s, i filling those places. Triangles like the one linked above have long been used to introduce the idea of a triadic sign relation. They have the unintended consequence, however, of leading people to miss all the points I mentioned above. So it's wise to move quickly on to better pictures and more detailed descriptions. Resources ========= * Survey of Semiotics, Semiosis, Sign Relations * https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2019/10/29/survey-of-semiotics-semiosis-sign-relations-%e2%80%a2-1/ Regards, Jon inquiry into inquiry: https://inquiryintoinquiry.com/ academia: https://independent.academia.edu/JonAwbrey oeiswiki: https://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey isw: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/JLA facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/JonnyCache
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