Dear Rafe, 
        Yes, there are many similarities to be sure. But one problem in saying 
there is a parallel "conjectural turn" is that Peirce actually did develop a 
logic of conjecture, that is, abduction, whereas Popper, whose book Logik der 
Forschung was strangely translated into English as The Logic of Discovery, did 
not have a logic of discovery, abduction, or conjecture. 

        In Popper's words: "The initial stage, the act of conceiving or 
inventing a theory, seems to me neither to call for logical analysis nor to be 
susceptible of it...my view of the matter, for what it is worth, is that there 
is no such thing as a logical method of having new ideas, or a logical 
reconstruction of this process. My view may be expressed by saying that every 
discovery contains 'an irrational element' or a 'creative intuition,' in 
Bergson's sense" (Popper 1968: 31-32). 

        Here Popper expresses the common idea shared by rationalists and 
positivists alike, as I put it in my book Meaning and Modernity, that inquiry 
begins with an irrational intuition, a creative insight that is not an 
inference from observed facts, and whose consequences somehow provide the 
guiding idea of an inquiry, despite the fact that the idea itself is utterly 
illogical. Peirce, by contrast, demonstrates that conjecture can be taken as 
reasonable, logical inference, and subject to further testing.

        Dewey also developed a theory of inquiry with similarities to Peirce's 
abduction, where inquiry is "the progressive determination of a problem and its 
solution," beginning in the "indeterminate situation."

        Gene



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Coming to the discussion late, it is good to see some attention to Popper's 
ideas because it  has long appeared that comparison and contrast of  Popper 
with Peirce and also with Dewey would be rewarding. Popper's leading idea is 
often depicted as falsificationism versus the verificationism of the Vienna 
positivsts and the logical empiricists. That is hard to avoid because Popper 
made such big effort to engage with Carnap and his associates, however the 
standard account of Popper as a falsificationist does not do justice to the 
full extent of  his program of critical rationalism and evolutionary 
epistemology.



The first step of the program can be described as a full-blooded 
"conjectural turn", parallel to the fallibilism of Peirce, to claim that 
even our best theories may be rendered problematic by new evidence, new 
criticisms and new theories. This anticipated the "hermeneutic turn" when 
appreciation of the theory-dependence of observations and arguments became 
more widespread in the wake of Kuhn and the modern French theorists. Other 
"turns" include the "objectivist turn" to break with the obsession with the 
justification of beliefs and instead to focus on the strengths and 
weaknesses of  theories that are stated in a public, inter-subjective or 
"objective" form. Then there is Popper's "social turn" to examine the 
function of institutions, traditions, conventions and "rules of the game" in 
science and society. This has been spelled out by Ian Jarvie. And finally 
the "metaphysical turn" to recognise the pervasive influence of 
philosophical or metaphysical ideas which are the framework assumptions or 
presuppositions of  thought.



For more on the "turns" see 
http://www.the-rathouse.com/Pop-Schol/PopperTurns.html



Rafe Champion

Sydney, Australia

http://www.the-rathouse.com

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