Carl Dassbach wrote:
> Van Gelder's proposals are, in my opinion,  the beginnings of what socialism
> should look like. Nature and humanity must not be seen as "others", they
> must be seen as identical. Class based societies establish and maintain an
> exploitative relationship between humans and nature (primarily for for the
> benefit of the capitalist class) and an integral part of the  "rational"
> reconstruction of a society under Socialism is to establishing a harmonious
> or a non-exploitative relationship between humans and nature.  Van Gelder
> "theses" are ways to begin thinking about doing this.

that makes sense to me (though I might disagree with details).
However, it's hard to imagine implementing socialist policies in a
capitalist society, especially given the general disorganization of
antiestablishmentarian forces.
-- 
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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