On Apr 15, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Julio Huato wrote:

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Perelman, Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:

I am not sure that the English speaking world needed Hegel to learn the word freedom. People spoke about free men (not women, of course), well before Hegel. The term franklin denotes a member of a social class or rank in England in the 12th to 15th centuries. In the period when Middle English was in use, a franklin was simply a freeman; that is, a man who was not a serf, in the feudal system under which people were tied to land which they did not
own, in bondage to a member of the nobility who owned that land.

Every human being could learn from Hegel, about freedom and a whole
bunch of other things.  It seems to me that the notion of freedom in
the English-speaking world is rather narrow.

In their medieval origins, the terms "burgher" and "bourgeois," like the Latin "civis," pointed to the intimate connection between freedom and civilization. The slave in Rome received citizenship upon manumission. The serf's desire for freedom was not expressed in jacqueries but in the maxim "stadtluft macht frei" (to breath city air is to be free).

Shane Mage

This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
 always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
 kindling in measures and going out in measures.

 Herakleitos of Ephesos





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